- From: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.umd.edu>
- Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:06:04 -0500
- To: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hpl.hp.com>, www-webont-wg@w3.org
At 17:37 +0100 12/30/02, Jeremy Carroll wrote: >On 24 Dec 2002, Jim Hendler wrote: >> WE ARE ASKING TO HAVE ALL REVIEWS DONE BY Jan 2!! > >Much too little review time, particularly for those of us blessed with >seasonal holidays. > >> Apologies that this falls during the winter (summer in the Southern >> Hemisphere) break, but it is necessary for us to meet our Last Call >> calendar > >Conclusion the calendar is too aggressive. > >> Only those changed sections will be open for review/discussion at the >> face to face > >Unacceptable. > >Any aspect of the documents including omissions (which may have no associated >section) should be up for discussion in the f2f before last call. > >Also such a restriction permits editors to unilaterally to ignore review >comments; and then the ignored comments are excluded from the agenda? > >Given the tightness of the review deadline it seems more appropriate to allow >late comments in a fairly unrestricted fashion. > >Since I suspect this is the first time that many of us are reviewing our >documents together as a collection I suspect that there will be cross >document issuettes and unclarities. I find the syntactic restrictions on OWL >Lite and OWL DL to be one of them: the only documents that are clear that a >single triple ( <a> <p> "v" . ) is not OWL Lite are the mapping part of >semantics and Test Cases. This is not listed anywhere as a change from >Daml+Oil, despite it being one that has significant practical impact. > >I suspect we need some process for tracking such issuettes. > >The process currently being followed will result in many last call issues. A >last call issue is significantly more administrative work than a prelast call >issue. If the WG wishes to have such work then so be it, but I suggest that >it would be better to improve our docs before last call. > >Jeremy Jeremy- we appreciate the deadlines, but it's not like we haven't been pointing out for a long time that this was coming, and all our docs went out in pre-LC WDs long enough ago (and comments and reviews have been solicited all along). The issues you bring up do need to be addressed, but don't necessarily need the time of the whole WG - many of them are best dealt with in high bandwidth communication between reviewer and editor - which the f2f agenda has been designed to facilitate. Also, the comments we've asked to have finalized by Jan 2 are the comments on the documents themselves -- the identification of "cracks" between the documents and the fixes thereto will be addressed at the f2f, again, one hopes without the need of everyone in the WG working on each of them. There will be plenary time for any "major" issues that come up (and the one you've brought up about Lite/DL will likely be one of those). The deadlines we're looking at could be movable, but we;d prefer to shoot at what we have -- again, we're up against process deadlines and while delays are possible, they also add risk. Please, please try to get your comments on the record before Jan 2 - any comments raised by then (such as the one you mention above) must be dealt w/by the editors before we would approve LC, but we have to have some finite limit, or we will never be done until the language is "perfect" - an unachievable goal. So we'd like to stick with what we have, and do our best JH -- Professor James Hendler hendler@cs.umd.edu Director, Semantic Web and Agent Technologies 301-405-2696 Maryland Information and Network Dynamics Lab. 301-405-6707 (Fax) Univ of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742 240-731-3822 (Cell) http://www.cs.umd.edu/users/hendler
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