- From: Rodney Hoinkes <rodney@odum.clr.toronto.edu>
- Date: Wed, 7 Dec 94 12:04:03 -0500
- To: Multiple recipients of list <www-vlib@www0.cern.ch>, secret@www5.cern.ch
Arthur says: > I don't mind wether we use a stat file, or comments inside the file. > But I remember we had a previous discussion on this: That discussion revolved around the description of the subject areas if I recall - something at would logically be on each page that the user accesses, but stats just eat more bandwidth for each regular user without providing them something useful in this case (or not useful to the vast majority). I think a seperate file is a good idea and if we can define the variables and language (and there aren't too many), I say why not! It would be esp. useful if one or two people could hack up a script (perl & shell since some of us do not have perl (egads - you do not say!)) to generate this from the log file (since the format is standardized now in log files). Each site admin only needs to define the filenames that constitute their home pages (I have about 5 that are links to the main one so I get a sense of where people came from). as to a 'stat' filename, I'm not as sure. I have seperate pages for Architecture & Landscape Architecture but BOTH reside in the same home directory - should I: 1) combine them, or 2) have some way of indicating the stat file for each?? I don't think I'm alone in this so I'm for some more careful definition of the filename used - maybe stat.NORMALNAME, where NORMALNAME is the name of the main 'home' page, in my case: Architecture is in: /VIRTUALLIB/arch.html so the stat file would be: /VIRTUALLIB/stat.arch.html Lan. Arch is in: /VIRTUALLIB/larch.html so the stat file would be: /VIRTUALLIB/stat.larch.html Also, maybe it should not be called 'stat' but 'info' or something more general to reflect other info we may want to put into it later that is not pure stats. So what 'info' do we want/can we gather easily/is useful? Daily Avrg 'home' HTML file access (excluding inline images, etc.) Daily Avrg 'links' off from the page (for those who record it - I just started) Citations of the page in 'publications' Other areas as we discussed before are too subjective in interpretation, ie. # of links in main page, etc. (of doubtful use and open to vast misrepresentation) Although - # of links in 'library' might be useful and each admin can decide what that means - add all sub-pages, database entries, etc. I am thinking that this might be as useful to each subject as for the whole library - how much does it catalog? (of course, cross-listings are a problem!) - as a % of the 'known' pages out there? I'd be interested!! What about 'how many' accesses from diff parts of the world? by class, education, commercial, government? It seems that this library is one of the best sources for demographics of the web potentially!! Wow - too much typing, I'll let others comment and see where this goes. Regards, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rodney Hoinkes EMAIL: rodney@clr.toronto.edu Head of Design Applications WWW-URL: http://www.clr.toronto.edu:1080/ Centre for Landscape Research AnonFTP: ftp.clr.toronto.edu University of Toronto -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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