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Re: Modern button for good result of validation HTML5

From: Philip Taylor <P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:41:24 +0000
To: "O'Guin, Phaewryn" <JDO09280@ccv.vsc.edu>, Jens Oliver Meiert <jens@meiert.com>, Alexander <aralni@mail.ru>
Cc: W3C WWW Validator <www-validator@w3.org>
Message-ID: <abcb361a-8907-e4f8-0b73-ecf920dfcbbb@Rhul.Ac.Uk>
Phaewryn O'Guin, wrote:
> I think the reason why people have always used them have been either to boost their own egos ("I'm a good website designer and I can prove it because LOOK - I HAS A BUTTON!") or as a requirement of a cheap website design course they are taking ("My website design course requires that my site I built as part of my course validates and my instructor wants the button on my site to save them from actually having to check my code because they are a lazy overpaid POS.").
I respectfully disagree.  When "Valid HTML 4.01 Strict" buttons were in 
vogue, I would routinely add them at the bottom of any page I authored 
or modified.  The button was linked to the validator using <A 
href="http://validator.w3.org/check/referer"> and the idea was to 
/encourage/ visitors to click on the button if the page rendered badly 
(or even wrongly) in their browser.  If the page was valid HTML, then 
the user should look to his/her environment to see what might be the 
cause of the problem; if the page was /invalid/, then there was always a 
link to "mailto:webmaster@..." to allow the problem to be reported.

> no-one at w3C gives any shits if the buttons exist at all, much less if they are updated.
Hardly surprising when you read the disclaimer :

> The Nu Html Checker (v.Nu) is an ongoing experiment in better HTML 
> checking, and its behavior remains subject to change. In particular, 
> because new types of error checks continue to be actively added to the 
> checker, there is no guarantee provided that if the checker reports 
> zero errors for a particular document at one point in time, it will 
> report zero errors for that same document at some later point in time.
> The Nu Html Checker should not be used as a means to attempt to 
> unilaterally enforce pass/fail conformance of documents to any 
> particular specifications; it is intended solely as a checker, not as 
> a pass/fail certification mechanism.

Philip Taylor
Received on Tuesday, 1 January 2019 16:42:11 UTC

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