- From: Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>
- Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:57:58 +0200
- To: www-validator@w3.org
Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: > * it groups identical error messages Test this with some _real_ pages. Often errors are only a side-effect of another error starting before / ending after the shown error, and then it's essential to see errors in their context (i.e. by line number). > * it reintroduces the ^ marker which helps to spot certain > errors Nice. > * no right-hand navigation bar > I think it just distracts and takes space, Yes, get rid of it. It's ugly in browsers without CSS. Fragments without name= don't work with my browser, so I'm very happy if you eliminate this useless stuff. The validator can handle HTML 3.2, therefore its output should be also visible with a HTML 3.2 browser. My HTML 3.2 browser is quite happy with XHTML 1.0 (after all XML is simpler than SGML), but it insists on a name= > The same applies to most of the links, a separate page > maybe even the homepage, is a better place for these. True. > already sufficiently clear about whether the document > validates or not. I like the big "This page is valid XHTML 1.0 transitional". Only transitional, because I found no better "visible with any browser" DTD, although some 1.1 ideas make sense... :-( > * it does not include page source Excellent. For big documents it's annoying if the validator echoes what I sent (or what it found at the URL). The line numbers were _always_ correct so far, therefore showing the complete source unconditionally (for any error) was a pain. > It's sometimes useful, sometimes not Then it should be an option, respected even after errors. > * it does not include the navigation elements on the top, > it certainly should, but again, that's been out of scope All links not working with "any browser" are useless. > * it does not include all this legal stuff in the footer, > whether it must I do not know; I would not put it there Legal stuff is always important, and you can collect more irrelevant nonsense in the footer. Insert some <del> tags, they have no effect with legacy browsers. > * it looks much much better, IMHO, and the styles are > cross-browser _Much_ better than the original output (your [1] link) with my browser, which doesn't support any CSS. > it could use scripting to hide the source code fragments > and show them on user request In another version designed for browsers supporting scripts. Please be careful with the test, sometimes I'm confused and enable JavaScript 1.1 in my browser. Bye, Frank
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