- From: Denis Boudreau [ CYBERcodeur.net ] <denis@cybercodeur.net>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:51:22 -0400
- To: "Jeffrey Zeldman" <jeffrey@zeldman.com>, <www-validator@w3.org>
- Cc: <asjo@koldfront.dk>, "Karl Dubost" <karl@w3.org>
> -----Original Message----- > From: www-validator-request@w3.org > [mailto:www-validator-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Zeldman > Sent: June 13, 2003 1:07 PM > To: www-validator@w3.org > Cc: asjo@koldfront.dk; Karl Dubost > Subject: Beta Validator usability suggestion > Wouldn't it be helpful if the validation service itself explained the > error clearly, using the language of the FAQ? Or using some of the > language of the FAQ and linking to the complete explanation on the > FAQ page? > Clearer, more user-friendly error messages might help users > understand and fix errors instead of scratching their heads and > possibly giving up. This in turn might lead to more sites that fully > comply with W3C recommendations. It might also help designers and > developers feel that the W3C was speaking their language. And the > best part is, it's just replacing one stream of ASCII with another. ;) Hello list, While we're on the subject, it has come to my attention that many people I work with who've tried using the validators after I've finally managed to persuade them had such a bad experience with it they simply decided not to bother with it and went on with their merry non-compliant lives. As Jeffrey is saying, user-friendly messages would greatly help those of us who try to push code validation into their neighboor's working habits. I truly hope you will take the opportunity we have with this new version to make this experience a little more pleasant and less frightening fir the average user. There are a few improvement that have already been made, particularily with the error message for the missing doctype (fallback), but there's still much to do to make using these tools a positive, educational experience for the web authors who want to learn using web standards. Thank you for listening as well, Denis Boudreau [ CYBERcodeur ] CYBERcodeur.net - VDM - W3Qc - OpenWebGroup Mail : denis@cybercodeur.net ICQ : 115649885 WEB : http://www.cybercodeur.net/ http://w3qc.cybercodeur.net/ http://www.openweb.eu.org/
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