Re[2]: Fallback flow for /site-meta for top level domains

For my reason my message wasn't included so I am sending it from a
different email which will let it go through I think, sorry for the
incovenience. Here you go:

I think once the browsers and also the search engine will finally
accept that,, and
even,, or, etc. - are all the same page - many problems
will be solved for both webmasters and regular users.

Kindest regards,
SEO Manager - Unlimited SEO Consulting

Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 8:53:46 AM, you wrote:

> Ah, I see where your confusion is coming from. The average user does
> not know that is a different URL from
> (or alternatively, that is
> a different location than We can thank all the
> major browsers for that.

> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Breno de Medeiros <> wrote:
>> The 'naked domain' version of the site may not be DNS-resolvable,
>> while the www. prepended version of the domain may be. In addition,
>> the fact that a resource URL does not exist (in the sense that it
>> might return a 404) does not mean that it cannot have meaningful
>> associated meta-data.
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Mark Nottingham <> wrote:
>>> On 03/12/2008, at 1:35 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Mark Nottingham <> wrote:
>>>>> On 02/12/2008, at 1:25 PM, Dirk Balfanz wrote:
>>>>>> Well, here is the scenario: I buy for $3/year at
>>>>>> I pay an extra dollar to have "email", which means I
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> them where I want my email forwarded. I pick to be
>>>>>> forwarded
>>>>>> to I pay another extra dollar per year for "web
>>>>>> hosting",
>>>>>> which means I get a web interface on to create some web
>>>>>> pages, which get served on I set up a couple of pages
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> with pictures of my cats or whatever and I am done.
>>>>>> I now also want to use my email address as my OpenID
>>>>>> identifier [1] because I heard that that will end my having to create
>>>>>> ever-more accounts on the web. I am told that in order to get that to
>>>>>> work I
>>>>>> need to host a page called "site-meta" on my site with some
>>>>>> weird-looking
>>>>>> text in it that I don't understand. But, hey, I know how to get that
>>>>>> served
>>>>>> off so that's cool.
>>>>>> I have never heard of DNS.
>>>>>> Is that a use case we want to support?
>>>>>> Dirk.
>>>>>> [1] Let's assume that OpenID 3.0 and XRD 2.0 allow that and define some
>>>>>> way to discover OpenID endpoints from email addresses.
>>>>> /site-meta on doesn't (and can't, on its own) make any
>>>>> authoritative assertions about; even though the
>>>>> authority is the same, the URI scheme is different.
>>>> The email address is a distraction here. The core issue is independent of
>>>> that.
>>>> (hosted only at is a small
>>>> site and wants to enable all their user URLs
>>>>, to be useful
>>>> as discovery endpoints for user services. Thankfully some other site,
>>>> more professionally managed, is willing to provide discovery services,
>>>> aggregation, etc., on behalf of the users of these vanity domains.
>>> You just lost me. Why is it important to have site metadata for a site that
>>> doesn't exist, if the e-mail issue is a distraction?
>>> --
>>> Mark Nottingham
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