- From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
- Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:37:04 -0700
- To: Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>, Karl Dubost <karl@la-grange.net>
- CC: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, "www-tag@w3.org WG" <www-tag@w3.org>
to archive documents for a long time, you need more than just link stability. You need document formats designed for archive, and you need a storage system that can guarantee integrity for the lifetime of the information archived. My take on this was http://larry.masinter.net/0603-archiving.pdf -- your answers might be different but the questions remain. Larry > -----Original Message----- > From: Herbert Van de Sompel [mailto:hvdsomp@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:58 PM > To: Karl Dubost > Cc: Mark Nottingham; www-tag@w3.org WG > Subject: Re: Link rot in Supreme Court decisions > > Karl > > I couldn't agree more. If you find a moment, pls read the document > > http://mementoweb.org/missing-link/ > > Herbert > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 16:45, Karl Dubost <karl@la-grange.net> wrote: > > > Mark Nottingham [2013-09-23T21:50]: > >> I'm sure some here will enjoy / be horrified by this. > >> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/us/politics/in-supreme-court- > opinions-clicks-that-lead- > nowhere.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=t > witter&_r=0 > > > > horrified by the tracking link ;) :p > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/us/politics/in-supreme-court-opinions- > clicks-that-lead-nowhere.html > > > > That said: > > > > * Identifier > > * Actual content > > * Duplication > > - Location > > - Rights > > > > Many things which are published on papers are extremely resistant to time, > because of the third property, aka duplicated in many places apart from each > other. In addition to that, libraries have a special status with regards to the law > on keeping and circulate copies of a work. > > > > On the Web, there are cache systems but not really with an archiving policy. > And we have the issue of most of the time what is identified is what/where is > stored. Practical for fresh information, catastrophic for the fabric of time. In an > aesthetics of the Web, rust is spreading quite quickly. > > > > In addition to that, the identifier is dependent on the location owner (domain > name). > > > > -- > > Karl Dubost > > http://www.la-grange.net/karl/ > > > >
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