- From: Noah Mendelsohn <nrm@arcanedomain.com>
- Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:26:49 -0400
- To: "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
The agenda for the TAG teleconference of 14 July 2011 is now available at
[1,2], and in text-only form below. Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/07/14-agenda
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly
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[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/06/23-agenda
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/07/14-agenda
[5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/07/21-agenda
Agenda of 14 July 2011 TAG Teleconference
Nearby: [6]Teleconference details - [7]issues list - [8]open actions
- [9]pending review actions - [10]www-tag archive - [11]tag archive
1. Convene
+ Chair: Noah Mendelsohn, Scribe: Yves Lafon (confirmed)
+ Roll call -- Regrets: Tim Berners-Lee
+ Future regrets for July: Tim (21 & 28 July); Larry Masinter
(28 July); Yves Lafon (28 July)
+ Agenda Review - [12]this agenda
+ Next Meeting: 21 July 2011, Chair: Noah Mendelsohn
+ Future scribes: Jonthan Rees, Dan Appelquist, Larry
Masinter
2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
+ [13]23 June 2011
3. Administrative items
+ [14]Registration is now open for the [15]2011 Technical
Plenary in Santa Clara, CA
+ Norm Walsh [16]announces new draft of [17]HTML/XML Task
Force Report (discussion to be held on the
[18]public-html-xml@w3.org mailing list
+ Meeting and Teleconference Schedules
o Summer telcons will be likely be held on the following
dates:
# 14 July (this one)
# Probable; 21 July, 4 August
# Probably not: 28 July, 11 August, 18 August, 25
August (the chair would like to meet on one more
of those August dates, but we would have low
attendance)
# [19]Spreadsheet showing summer regrets
(member-only, .xls format)
o The autumn F2F will be 13-15 September in Edinburgh,
UK
o The TAG will meet 4-6 January 2012 at the W3C offices
at MIT in Cambridge, MA
o TAG members are to hold open the week of 2 April 2012
for likely F2F meeting at the W3C offices at
Sophia-Antipolis, France (timed to follow Paris IETF
meetings the previous week)
4. [20]HTML5 Review: Normative status of HTML5 Web Authoring
Specification
+ Goals:
o TAG to review HTML5 WG [21]decision on normative
status of [22]http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/author/
+ Background:
o The TAG thought it had agreement with the HTML WG that
[23]http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/author/ would be
normative, but the copy included with the HTML5 last
call was labeled as non-normative.
o [24]Query from Noah to HTML5 chairs
o Paul Cotton [25]announces HTML WG [26]chairs' decision
including the revised text for authoring draft.
o [27]ACTION-556: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Follow up with
HTML WG chairs as to why
http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/author/ is not normative -
Due: 2011-06-30 - PENDING REVIEW
o [28]ACTION-581: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Include
discussion of Authoring Spec status resolution
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Ju
n/0287.html in 14 July 2011 Agenda [self-assigned] -
Due: 2011-07-12 - PENDING REVIEW
5. [29]ISSUE-35 (RDFinXHTML-35-27): Microdata / RDFa relationship
+ Goals:
o Find additional ways that the TAG can be helpful in
resolving the Microdata / RDFa overlap
+ Background:
o [30]E-mail from TAG chair to HTML WG raising issues
against the Microdata and RDFa+HTML draft
specifications and proposing W3C set up a task force
to resolve — there has been subsequent e-mail
discussion
o HTML WG opens bugs
[31]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=1310
0 and
[32]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=1310
1 (against Microdata and HTML+RDFa respectively). TAG
members may add themselves to the cc: list for
discussion, using Bugzilla. You need a Bugzilla
account to do that.
o [33]ACTION-573: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Send Jeni's
note to HTML WG, RDFa, and W3C staff on Wed 22 June
2011 if there are no objections received by the 21st
Due 2011-06-22 - Due: 2011-06-23 - PENDING REVIEW
o [34]ACTION-575: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Send
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2011Jun/0082.h
tml as edited Due 2011-06-24 - Due: 2011-06-30 -
PENDING REVIEW
o [35]ACTION-571: on - Jeni Tennison - Write up comments
on microdata and RDFa - Due: 2011-06-16 - CLOSED
6. RFC 3023bis and IRI
+ Goals:
o Finish [36]discussion started on 23 June 2011,
specifically relating to "processor profiles, IRIbis,
and HTML5"
+ Background:
o [37]ACTION-577: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Schedule
3023bis discussion of processor profiles and "IRIbis
and HTML5", leftover from 23 June discussion, when
Larry is available DueL 2011-07-12 - Due: 2011-06-30 -
PENDING REVIEW
o Background for 23 June discussion:
# Henry [38]provides details of issues to be
considered. The following is adapted from Henry's
note:
@ [39]RFC 3023bis and fragment identifiers --
We discussed this a year ago ([40]minutes)
and came to a conclusion, which Noah took to
[41]ACTION-441 to convey to the 3023
editors. There was [42]substantial pushback.
Jonathan [43]reported on our further
discussion to the 3023 editors, setting out
a number of alternative ways forward. Chris
Lilley [44]replied stating a preference for
option 2. But nothing has happened. . . Time
to put a TAG push behind a new draft of
3023bis?
@ 3023bis and Processor Profiles -- The XML
Processing Model WG has produced a [45]Last
Call WD for XML Processing Profiles. Would
3023bis be the architecturally correct place
to connect this to XML itself?
@ IRIbis and HTML5 'URIs' -- The HTML WG has
removed all reference to 3987bis, but the
IRI WG is exploring ways to get back in (the
following is quoted from
[46]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/publ
ic-iri/2011May/0026.html):
"In March 2011, the W3C's HTML WG made a decision to close
ISSUE-56 when the parties involved could not come to agreem
ent
on aligning HTML5 with the IRI WG's revisions to RFC 3987:
[6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon
[7] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues
[8] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/open
[9] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
[11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/
[12] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/07/14-agenda
[13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/06/23-minutes
[14] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2011/
[15] http://www.w3.org/2011/11/TPAC/
[16]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-xml/2011Jun/0012.html
[17] http://www.w3.org/2010/html-xml/snapshot/
[18] mailto:public-html-xml@w3.org
[19] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/coordination/Summer2011Availability.xls
[20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/products/6
[21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0287.html
[22] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/author/
[23] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/author/
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2011Jun/0000.html
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2011Jun/0125.html
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0287.html
[27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/556
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/581
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/35
[30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2011Jun/0136.html
[31] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13100
[32] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13101
[33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/573
[34] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/575
[35] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/571
[36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/06/23-minutes#item03
[37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/577
[38] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2011Jun/0005.html
[39] http://www.w3.org/2006/02/son-of-3023/latest.html
[40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/06/9-minutes.html#item03
[41] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/441
[42] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/449
[43] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/476
[44] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Nov/0095.html
[45] http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-xml-proc-profiles-20110412/
[46] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-iri/2011May/0026.html
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/04
04.html
"That decision effectively removed the HTML5 specification'
s
dependency on rfc3987bis. It appears that this was done so
that the HTML5 specification could define how to translate
input strings contained in text/html documents into URIs.
. . .
"However, our understanding is that ISSUE-56 can be reopene
d if
new information emerges, such as "IETF completing productio
n of
a document suitable as a formal reference". And of course
as
chairs of the IRI WG we would like to deliver such a docume
nt."
# [47]Paul Grosso notes: Also related to IRIbis is
the XML Core desire to be able to reference it
normatively from the XML and related specs for
the definition of LEIRIs as recorded at
[48]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xm
l-core-wg/2011Mar/0022 among other places.
7. [49]ACTION-545: Privacy
+ Note: this was a F2F session that we never got to — Ashok
Malhotra had agreed to lead it. On 23 June 2011, Ashok
[50]asked that we wait for Larry Masinter to be available
+ Goals:
o Review the [51]Report of the W3C Workshop on Web
Tracking and User Privacy (required reading)
o We will focus primarily, but not exclusively on "Do
Not Track" proposals
o Decide how the TAG will engage in privacy-related work
for the remainder of 2011
+ Background:
o [52]Report of the W3C Workshop on Web Tracking and
User Privacy (required reading)
o [53]ACTION-460: on - Daniel Appelquist - Coordinate
with IAB regarding next steps on privacy policy - Due:
2011-05-24 - OPEN
o [54]ACTION-550: on - Daniel Appelquist - With help
from Noah to plan TAG work on privacy, leading to
session at F2F, next step is contact with TLR - Due:
2011-05-12 - OPEN
o [55]ACTION-507: on - Daniel Appelquist - With Noah to
suggest next steps for TAG on privacy - Due:
2011-05-03 - CLOSED
o [56]ACTION-545: on - Ashok Malhotra - Report to TAG,
after privacy workshop, regarding architecture issue
on privacy and especially degree to which use cases
beyond those addressed by "Do Not Track" need
attention - Due: 2011-05-03 - CLOSED
o Earlier background:
# IETF/W3C Privacy workshop was held at MIT 8-98
December 2011. "Action Items" for W3C were
proposed. See: [57]Action items (PDF - may need
rotating) collected at IETF/W3C Privacy Workshop
wrapup
# [58]ACTION-264: on - Ashok Malhotra - Draft
agenda item for upcoming telcon discussion of
geolocation and privacy - Due: 2009-08-04 -
CLOSED
# [59]ACTION-290: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Write to
Geolocation WG saying "we have concern that the
spec does not say enough user privacy" - Due:
2009-07-30 - CLOSED
# [60]ACTION-408: on - Daniel Appelquist - Look
into next steps on a workshop around device APIs,
privacy etc. with tlr - Due: 2010-03-31 - CLOSED
# [61]ACTION-506: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Noah to
bring proposed W3C Actions on Privacy before the
TAG - TLR to report back to IETF - Due:
2011-01-11 - CLOSED
# Papers from earlier IETF/W3C workshop on privacy
were at
[62]http://www.iab.org/about/workshops/privacy/Pr
ivacy_Workshop_Papers.zip but that link appears
not to work any more ([63]ACTION-490: on - Noah
Mendelsohn - Noah and others(?) going to privacy
workshop to report back to the TAG? - Due:
2010-12-21 - CLOSED) ([64]ACTION-506: on - Noah
Mendelsohn - Noah to bring proposed W3C Actions
on Privacy before the TAG - TLR to report back to
IETF - Due: 2011-01-11 - CLOSED)
8. Overdue Action Items:
+ [65]Overdue actions in [66]Tracker
9. Pending Review Items:
+ [67]Pending review actions in [68]Tracker
10. Any other business
_________________________________________________________
[47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2011Jun/0007.html
[48] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2011Mar/0022
[49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/545
[50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/06/23-minutes#item04
[51] http://www.w3.org/2011/track-privacy/report
[52] http://www.w3.org/2011/track-privacy/report
[53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/460
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/550
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/507
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/545
[57]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Dec/att-0061/ActionItems_Workshop.pdf
[58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/264
[59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/290
[60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/408
[61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/506
[62]
http://www.iab.org/about/workshops/privacy/Privacy_Workshop_Papers.zip
[63] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/490
[64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/506
[65] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue
[66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[67] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[68] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
Noah Mendelsohn for the TAG
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