W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > www-tag@w3.org > September 2007

RE: Preferable alternative to 'resource'

From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:20:41 -0500
Message-Id: <p0623091dc321ce1e39c8@[10.100.0.28]>
To: "David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com>
Cc: "John Cowan" <cowan@ccil.org>, "Tim Berners-Lee" <timbl@w3.org>, "Technical Architecture Group WG" <www-tag@w3.org>, "Susie Stephens" <susie.stephens@gmail.com>

>We could then have the Uniform Anything Identifier and the Anything
>Description Framework.

Uniform Rigid Identifier (since they are supposed 
to be like proper names, 'attached to' their sole 
denotations in some way; the philosophical term 
is 'rigid designator'; 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigid_designator). 
Just a suggestion to save the acronym.

And well, yes, RDF has to be what it is, but 
that's just a matter of history :-)

Pat

>Dave
>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: www-tag-request@w3.org [mailto:www-tag-request@w3.org]
>>  On Behalf Of Pat Hayes
>>  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:55 PM
>>  To: John Cowan; Tim Berners-Lee
>>  Cc: Technical Architecture Group WG; Susie Stephens
>>  Subject: Re: Preferable alternative to 'resource'
>>
>>
>>  >>Tim Berners-Lee scripsit:
>>  >>
>>  >>>  So, Pat, what would be a better word which we should use
>>  instead? 
>>  >>> The class of all  ____ s?  The class of which all classes are 
>>  >>> subclasses is the class of ____ s?
>>  >>
>>  >>Subjects, in accordance with the OED's definition 13a: "That which
>>  >>forms, or is chosen as, the matter of thought, consideration, or
>>  >>inquiry; a topic, theme."  Using "subject" rather than "object" or
>>  >>"thing" allows us to talk about the imaginary as well as the real.
>>  >
>>  >Yes, that does avoid a potential problem with "thing". And its close
>>  >to, but not identical to, "topic". Just make sure to avoid the
>>  >grammatical implication, is all.
>>  >
>>
>>  Though, on further reflection, this is going to give rise to
>>  problems as well. The OED sense isn't found, for example, in
>>  Wikipedia (not surprising if it is number 13a, now I think of
>>  it), though the RDF sense is (!); and the grammatical sense
>>  is much more common.
>>  Philosophers will contrast 'subject' with 'object' and
>>  presume we are only talking about agents. Lawyers will
>>  presume we are referring to citizens as opposed to aliens.
>>  Its hard to beat "thing" if we also say that we allow
>>  imaginary and non-existent things. And its harder still to
>>  beat "anything".
>>
>>  Pat
>>
>>  --
>>  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  IHMC		(850)434 8903 or (650)494 3973   home
>>  40 South Alcaniz St.	(850)202 4416   office
>>  Pensacola			(850)202 4440   fax
>>  FL 32502			(850)291 0667    cell
>>  phayesAT-SIGNihmc.us       http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes
>>
>>
>>


-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------------
IHMC		(850)434 8903 or (650)494 3973   home
40 South Alcaniz St.	(850)202 4416   office
Pensacola			(850)202 4440   fax
FL 32502			(850)291 0667    cell
phayesAT-SIGNihmc.us       http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes
Received on Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:20:55 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.4.0 : Friday, 17 January 2020 22:56:18 UTC