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RE: Preferable alternative to 'resource'

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:56:55 -0700
Message-ID: <BEBB9CBE66B372469E93FFDE3EDC493ECBC3AE@repbex01.amer.bea.com>
To: "Pat Hayes" <phayes@ihmc.us>
Cc: "John Cowan" <cowan@ccil.org>, "Tim Berners-Lee" <timbl@w3.org>, "Technical Architecture Group WG" <www-tag@w3.org>, "Susie Stephens" <susie.stephens@gmail.com>

I can imagine the parts calendar now.

Dave

> Uniform Rigid Identifier (since they are supposed to be like 
> proper names, 'attached to' their sole denotations in some 
> way; the philosophical term is 'rigid designator'; 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigid_designator). 
> Just a suggestion to save the acronym.
> 
> And well, yes, RDF has to be what it is, but that's just a 
> matter of history :-)
> 
> Pat
> 
> >Dave
> >
> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>  From: www-tag-request@w3.org [mailto:www-tag-request@w3.org]  On 
> >> Behalf Of Pat Hayes
> >>  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:55 PM
> >>  To: John Cowan; Tim Berners-Lee
> >>  Cc: Technical Architecture Group WG; Susie Stephens
> >>  Subject: Re: Preferable alternative to 'resource'
> >>
> >>
> >>  >>Tim Berners-Lee scripsit:
> >>  >>
> >>  >>>  So, Pat, what would be a better word which we should use  
> >> instead?
> >>  >>> The class of all  ____ s?  The class of which all 
> classes are  
> >> >>> subclasses is the class of ____ s?
> >>  >>
> >>  >>Subjects, in accordance with the OED's definition 13a: 
> "That which  
> >> >>forms, or is chosen as, the matter of thought, 
> consideration, or  
> >> >>inquiry; a topic, theme."  Using "subject" rather than 
> "object" or  
> >> >>"thing" allows us to talk about the imaginary as well as 
> the real.
> >>  >
> >>  >Yes, that does avoid a potential problem with "thing". And its 
> >> close  >to, but not identical to, "topic". Just make sure to avoid 
> >> the  >grammatical implication, is all.
> >>  >
> >>
> >>  Though, on further reflection, this is going to give rise to  
> >> problems as well. The OED sense isn't found, for example, in  
> >> Wikipedia (not surprising if it is number 13a, now I think 
> of  it), 
> >> though the RDF sense is (!); and the grammatical sense  is 
> much more 
> >> common.
> >>  Philosophers will contrast 'subject' with 'object' and  
> presume we 
> >> are only talking about agents. Lawyers will  presume we 
> are referring 
> >> to citizens as opposed to aliens.
> >>  Its hard to beat "thing" if we also say that we allow  
> imaginary and 
> >> non-existent things. And its harder still to  beat "anything".
> >>
> >>  Pat
> >>
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