- From: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) <skw@hp.com>
- Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:55:12 +0100
- To: <www-tag@w3.org>
The agenda for our 18th October telcon is available at
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2004/10/18-tag.html
and as text below.
Regards,
Stuart Williams
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Agenda of 18th October 2004 TAG teleconference
Nearby: [3]Teleconference details - [4]issues list ([5]handling new
issues) - [6]www-tag archive
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#remote
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html
[5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.html
[6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
1. Administrative (15 mins)
1. Roll call. Regrets: None
2. Meeting Records
1. Update on [7]minutes of the 9-11 August f2f
2. Accept minutes of [8]5th-7th October F2F
3. ACTION CL: Chris collect IRC logs from last f2f ( cf
[9]pointers for assembling meeting minutes of 11 Aug) and
turn into minutes.
3. Accept this [10]agenda? Continue these without discussion:
+ ACTION PC: create draft summary for AC, get it to Steve
Bratt
by Oct 22
+ ACTION TBL: to investigate possible staff contact for TAG,
due date 20 October 2004
[7] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2004/10/09-11-tag-summary.html
[8] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2004/10/05-07-tag.html
[9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2004Aug/0026.html
[10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2004/10/18-tag.html
1.1 TAG Charter (10 mins max!)
DONE: ACTION SW: get a timescale from Ian about charter revision and
availability
1. Does the TAG have a concensus view on the draft of the revised
[11]TAG charter (member visible)
Proposal: The TAG welcomes the revisions proposed in the
[12]draft
TAG Charter. (member visible)
[11] http://www.w3.org/mid/1097519162.1220.160.camel@seabright
[12] http://www.w3.org/2004/10/11-tag-charter.html
2. Technical (75 min)
See also [13]open actions by owner and [14]open issues.
[13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/actions_owner.html
[14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html?view=normal&closed=1
2.1 Review of 2nd Last Call Document (30-45mins)
1. Generalised Representations: ACTION NM: to take a run through to
see how generalizing 'representation' to be less constrained
would
look with more careful terminology, report on whether this looks
feasible or not.
2. report from the editor:
+ ACTION NDW: to fix cross references to "uri allocation" that
read "uri assignment"
+ ACTION NDW: add "for more info, see also" link to [15]a
section of a QA spec to 4.x
+ ACTION NDW: to produce an editor's draft by 14 Oct (COB EDT)
3. Note LC#2 Actions done (close the threads that we can close!)
DONE: ACTION DC: make sure "web faster" doesn't bother the chair
next time he's doing an agenda. DONE: ACTION NDW: to note this
thread [closed] in the archive per msg from gk. DONE: ACTION SW:
to respond to Pat Hayes giving proposed resolution of Information
Resource
4. [16]LC#2 Status Open Threads Revision: 1.5 of Date: 2004/09/28
17:18:44 [Trimmed snapshot]
[Must visit: [1,3], 7, 20]
1. "information resource"
o DONE: ACTION SW: to respond to Patrick Stickler giving
proposed resolution of Information Resource
o [17]...
o [18]2004-10-12T09:58:25Z from Patrick.Stickler
o [19]2004-10-12T10:10:18Z from Patrick.Stickler
2. non-authoritative syntaxes for fragment identifiers
o [20]...
o [21]2004-09-27T23:38:25Z from myriam.amielh
3. new text for Information Resource (section 3.1)
o [22]...
o DONE: ACTION SW: to respond to Sandro giving proposed
resolution of Information Resource
o [23]2004-10-11T13:18:55Z from skw
4. resources/representations [was: random comments on 2nd LC of
WebArch] resources/representations [was: random comments on
2nd LC of WebArch]
o [24]2004-09-13T18:38:08Z from connolly
o 2004-09-20T19:00:00Z minute:
related to information resource, will leave pending. Note Roy's action.
5. too positive on extensibility [was: random comments on 2nd
LC
of WebArch] too positive on extensibility [was: random
comments on 2nd LC of WebArch]
o [25]...
o DONE: ACTION CL: to respond to the commenter for issue
8
pointing to the new draft on extensibility
o [26]2004-10-05T13:14:34Z from chris
o [27]2004-10-05T14:25:36Z from dom
6. section 2.2 - what does it mean to 'take on meaning'
o [28]...
o [29]2004-09-20T20:48:11Z from connolly
7. Use of "assign" for URI -> resource
o [30]...
o DONE: ACTION SW: to tell the commenter.
o DONE: ACTION SW: to make this response to Larry
o [31]2004-10-11T15:39:27Z from skw
o [32]2004-10-11T16:59:53Z from LMM
8. Comments from the QA WG on WebArch 2nd LC (extensibility)
o [33]...
o [34]2004-09-22T13:35:11Z from skw
9. Cyberspace analogous to set of all sets: URIs & URLs
o [35]2004-09-20T11:05:33Z from drewangel
o [36]2004-09-27T21:24:32Z from connolly
10. Representation of a secondary resource?
o [37]2004-09-21T15:54:05Z from jacek.kopecky
o ACTION DC: to reply to commenter re primary and
secondary resources.
11. KD 002 [was: Comments on Web Arch WD - 2004-07-05]
o [38]2004-09-22T20:29:42Z from ndw
o [39]2004-09-28T17:55:06Z from karl
o ACTION DC: point out new "URIs are central to web arch"
text in reply to Karl, ask if that satisfies
12. [Tim Bray] Review of webarch-20040816
o [40]2004-09-23T19:08:43Z from Norman.Walsh
o [41]2004-09-24T18:07:29Z from ndw
13. KD 004 [was: Comments on Web Arch WD - 2004-07-05]
o [42]...
o DONE: ACTION CL: respond to Karl regarding KD004
o [43]2004-10-07T09:45:09Z from chris
14. URIs and resources (Was: AWWW, 20040816 release, sections 1
and 2) URIs and resources (Was: AWWW, 20040816 release,
sections 1 and 2)
o [44]2004-09-29T08:06:58Z from gk
15. HTML WG last call comment on
http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-webarch-20040816/
o [45]...
o DONE: ACTION SW: ask the HTML WG if the qualification
we
made regarding XLink satisfies their comments.
o [46]2004-10-12T10:15:56Z from skw
16. Editorial comments on 28 Sep 2004 Editor's Draft of Web Arch
o [47]....
o [48]2004-10-13T18:28:37Z from ndw
17. Re: too positive on extensibility [was: random comments on
2nd LC of WebArch]
o [49]...
o [50]2004-10-05T14:25:36Z from dom
18. Late last-call comment on AWWW
o [51]2004-10-05T21:46:33Z from gk
19. Some thoughts on effective access to "primary" vs
"secondary"
resources, consistency of descriptions, and bootstrapping
the
semantic web...
o [52]2004-10-08T08:27:19Z from Patrick.Stickler
20. KD005 thru KD016: Comments on Web Arch WD - 2004-07-05
o [53]2004-10-13T21:44:34Z from connolly
[15] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-qaframe-spec-20040830/#extensions
[16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2004lc/lc-status-report.html
[17]
http://www.w3.org/mid/1E4A0AC134884349A21955574A90A7A56471BA@trebe051.nt
c.nokia.com
[18]
http://www.w3.org/mid/1E4A0AC134884349A21955574A90A7A56471BA@trebe051.nt
c.nokia.com
[19]
http://www.w3.org/mid/1E4A0AC134884349A21955574A90A7A56471BB@trebe051.nt
c.nokia.com
[20] http://www.w3.org/mid/4158A471.5000304@cisra.canon.com.au
[21] http://www.w3.org/mid/4158A471.5000304@cisra.canon.com.au
[22] http://www.w3.org/mid/416A883F.4050203@hp.com
[23] http://www.w3.org/mid/416A883F.4050203@hp.com
[24] http://www.w3.org/mid/1095100688.6086.557.camel@dirk
[25] http://www.w3.org/mid/261826281.20041005151434@w3.org
[26] http://www.w3.org/mid/261826281.20041005151434@w3.org
[27] http://www.w3.org/mid/1096986336.3137.115.camel@cumulustier
[28] http://www.w3.org/mid/1095713291.6086.653.camel@dirk
[29] http://www.w3.org/mid/1095713291.6086.653.camel@dirk
[30] http://www.w3.org/mid/416AA92F.1020707@hp.com
[31] http://www.w3.org/mid/416AA92F.1020707@hp.com
[32] http://www.w3.org/mid/0I5F00H5GJ7TZJ@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com
[33] http://www.w3.org/mid/41517F8F.8030808@hp.com
[34] http://www.w3.org/mid/41517F8F.8030808@hp.com
[35]
http://www.w3.org/mid/20040920110533.JVAV9978.mta13.adelphia.net@mail.ad
elphia.net
[36] http://www.w3.org/mid/1096320272.24259.427.camel@dirk
[37] http://www.w3.org/mid/1095782045.2943.125.camel@Kalb
[38] http://www.w3.org/mid/877jqmqc7d.fsf@nwalsh.com
[39]
http://www.w3.org/mid/882C451E-1177-11D9-AF97-000A95718F82@w3.org
[40] http://www.w3.org/mid/877jqk951g.fsf@nwalsh.com
[41] http://www.w3.org/mid/87acvfpmla.fsf@nwalsh.com
[42] http://www.w3.org/mid/1372979252.20041007114509@w3.org
[43] http://www.w3.org/mid/1372979252.20041007114509@w3.org
[44]
http://www.w3.org/mid/5.1.0.14.2.20040929090221.032cc2c8@127.0.0.1
[45] http://www.w3.org/mid/416BAEDC.1090008@hp.com
[46] http://www.w3.org/mid/416BAEDC.1090008@hp.com
[47] http://www.w3.org/mid/1096863927.30078.393.camel@seabright
[48] http://www.w3.org/mid/87zn2qmq0a.fsf@nwalsh.com
[49] http://www.w3.org/mid/261826281.20041005151434@w3.org
[50] http://www.w3.org/mid/1096986336.3137.115.camel@cumulustier
[51]
http://www.w3.org/mid/5.1.0.14.2.20041005223315.00bc3b50@127.0.0.1
[52]
http://www.w3.org/mid/1E4A0AC134884349A21955574A90A7A50A1DF7@trebe051.nt
c.nokia.com
[53] http://www.w3.org/mid/1097703874.30433.77.camel@dirk
Resources
1. [54]1st Last Call issues list ([55]sorted by section)
2. [56]1st Last Call Annotated version of WebArch
3. [57]List of actions by TAG participant
4. [58]2nd Last Call WD
5. Archive of [59]public-webarch-comment
6. [60]2nd Last Call Comments Tracking page
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/concerning.html
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/webarchWithIssues.html
[57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/actions_owner.html
[58] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-webarch-20040816/
[59] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webarch-comments/
[60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2004lc/lc-status-report.html
updates?
* ACTION DC: draft a request for proposed recommendation, based on
Norm's draft.
* ACTION CL: to cause draft of press release to happen
2.2 Continue review of open issues
Review will continue starting with [61]siteDate-36
[61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#siteData-36
2.2.1 status of Action Item status
Report on completed actions.
[62]httpRange-14
ACTION DC: with Norm, develop a finding on httpRange-14
starting with the HashSlashDuality text
[62] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#httpRange-14
[63]fragmentInXML-28
ACTION CONTINUES: Chris: Write up a summary of the
resolution[64]http://www.w3.org/2004/05/14-tag-summary.html#fra
gmentInXML-28
[63] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#fragmentInXML-28
[64] http://www.w3.org/2004/05/14-tag-summary.html#fragmentInXML-28
[65]xmlProfiles-29
ACTION Norm: Get XML Core WG to take on XMLProfiles-29
[65] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#xmlProfiles-29
[66]binaryXML-30
ACTION: Norm to add xbc use cases to binaryXML-30
ACTION Chris: Review the connection between the use cases and
the taxomony on Chris's note
[66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#binaryXML-30
[67]metadataInURI-31
ACTION Stuart revise finding (well overdue).
ACTION Paul find out what happened to DaveO's action item
there.
[67] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#metadataInURI-31
[68]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
ACTION Norm update the issues list to point to "The W3C
Workshop on Web Applications and Compound
Documents[69]http://www.w3.org/2004/04/webapps-cdf-ws/summary"
[68] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
[69] http://www.w3.org/2004/04/webapps-cdf-ws/summary
[70]xmlFunctions-34
ACTION timbl take another stab at specifying the problem
[70] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#xmlFunctions-34
[71]XMLVersion-41
ACTION NDW: to report workplan and dates for Extensibilty and
Versioning work..
ACTION PC: solicit QA WG review of draft
extensibility/versioning finding
[71] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#XMLVersion-41
_________________________________________________________________
The TAG does not expect to discuss issues below this line.
3. Status report on these findings
See also [72]TAG findings
* [73]abstractComponentRefs-37:
+ 30 Oct 2003 draft finding "[74]Abstract Component
References"
* [75]contentPresentation-26:
+ 30 June 2003 draft finding "[76]Separation of semantic and
presentational markup, to the extent possible, is
architecturally sound"
* [77]metadataInURI-31
* [78]siteData-36
+ "[79]There is no such thing as a Web site"
* [80]xmlChunk-44
+ "[81]XML Chunk Equality"
[72] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings
[73]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#abstractComponentRefs-37
[74] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/abstractComponentRefs-20031030
[75]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26
[76]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/contentPresentation-26-20030630.html
[77] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#metadataInURI-31
[78] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#siteData-36
[79] http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/01/08/WebSite36
[80] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#xmlChunk-44
[81] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/xmlChunkEquality.html
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Stuart Williams for TAG
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