- From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: 11 Sep 2003 12:47:37 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
Hello, The agenda of the 15 Sep 2003 TAG teleconf is available as HTML [1] and as text below. - Ian [1] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/15-tag ======================================================= Agenda of 15 September 2003 TAG teleconference Nearby: [4]Teleconference details · [5]issues list ([6]handling new issues)· [7]www-tag archive [4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#remote [5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist [6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.html [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/ Note: The Chair does not expect the agenda to change after close of business (Boston time) Thursday of this week. 1. Administrative (15min) 1. Roll call. Regrets: CL 2. Accept the minutes of the [8]8 Sep teleconf? 3. Accept this [9]agenda? 4. Next meeting 22 Sep teleconf? [8] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/08-tag-summary.html [9] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/15-tag.html Upcoming events: * 12 Sep: DO sends comments on [10]get7 finding * 17 Sep: Next Editor's draft of arch doc * 18 Sep: Next draft from NW/DO of extensibility draft finding * 22 Sep telcon: Review of Editors' draft of arch doc * 29 Sep telcon: Focus on Findings * 1 Oct: TR page draft of arch doc * 6-8 Oct ftf: arch doc review primarily, publishing expectations [10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet-20030709.html 2. Technical (75min) 2.1 NamespaceDocument-8 Status of work on [11]namespaceDocument-8. * Action TB 2003/04/07: Prepare RDDL Note. Include in status section that there is TAG consensus that RDDL is a suitable format for representations of an XML namespace. Clean up messy section 4 of RDDL draft and investigate and publish a canonical mapping to RDF. From 21 July ftf meeting, due 31 August. * Action PC 2003/04/07: Prepare finding to answer this issue, pointing to the RDDL Note. See [12]comments from Paul regarding TB theses. From 21 July ftf meeting, due 31 August. * Action PC 2003/09/08: Providing WebArch text as well for this issue. * Refer to draft TAG [13]opinion from Tim Bray on the use of URNs for namespace names. [11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/07/21-tag#namespaceDocument-8 [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0046.html [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0003.html 2.2 Findings * Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Update Deep linking finding (i.e., create a new revision) with references to [14]German court decision regarding deep linking. No additional review required since just an external reference. ([15]Done) * [16]whenToUseGet-7: 9 July 2003 draft of [17]URIs, Addressability, and the use of HTTP GET and POST + Action DO 2003/09/08: DO to send additional comments, due 12 Sep. + See [18]comments from Noah * [19]contentTypeOverride-24: 9 July 2003 draft of [20]Client handling of MIME headers 1. [21]Comments from Roy on charset param 2. [22]Comments from Philipp Hoschka about usability issues when user involved in error correction. Is there a new Voice spec out we can point to for example behavior? 3. [23]Comments from Chris Lilley 4. Change "MIME headers" to "server metadata" in title? [14] http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bgh&Sort=3&Datum=2003&Art=pm&client=3&Blank=1&nr=26553&id=1058517255.04 [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Sep/0020.html [16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#whenToUseGet-7 [17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet-20030709.html [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0297.html [19] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentTypeOverride-24 [20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect.html [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0051.html [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0076.html [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0113.html _________________________________________________________________ 2.3 Architecture Document Reference draft: [24]1 August 2003 Editor's Draft of the Arch Doc. See also [25]rewrite of the abstract and introduction. [24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/webarch-20030801 [25] http://www.w3.org/2003/08/webarch-intro-20030813.html 2.3.1 Review of actions related to Architecture Document Open action items: * Action RF 2003/06/02: Rewrite section 3. From 21 July ftf meeting, due 18 August. * Action IJ 2003/06/16: Attempt to incorporate relevant bits of "[26]Conversations and State" into section to be produced by RF. * Action TBL 2003/07/14: Suggest changes to section about extensibility related to "when to tunnel". * Action CL 2003/07/21: Create an illustration of two resources, one designated by URI without fragment, and one designated by same URI with fragment... * Action TB 2003/08/18: Bring some Vancouver ftf meeting photos to IJ attention (of whiteboard, re: CL action about illustration of two resources) * Action IJ, CL 2003/07/21: Discuss and propose improved wording of language regarding SVG spec in bulleted list in 2.5.1. * Action TBL 2003/07/21: Propose a replacement to "URI persistence ...person's mailbox" in 2.6 and continue to revise [27]TBL draft of section 2.6 based on TAG's 23 July discussion. * Action DC 2003/07/21: Propose language for section 2.8.5 showing examples of freenet and other systems. * Action TB 2003/08/04: Write a definition of "XML-based" * Action IJ 2003/08/04: s/machine-readable/something like: optimized for processors, w/ defn that includes notion that it can be processed unattended (by a person). * Action TB and CL 2003/07/21: Propose a replacement sentence in section 3.2.2.1 regarding advantages of text formats. IRC log of [28]18 Aug teleconf suggested done, but can't find evidence. [26] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Conversations [27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/webarch/tim [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0076.html The following action items were follow-up from the 22 July face-to-face meeting in Vancouver: * Identification and resources 1. TBL 2003/08/21: Write replacement text for Moby Dick example in section 2.6 (on URI ambiguity). Is this done in [29]TBL's draft? * Representations 1. TB, IJ 2003/08/21: Integrate findings. What does this mean? [29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/webarch/tim#URI-persistence 2.4 Findings See also [30]TAG findings home page. [30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings/ 2.4.2 Draft findings that require more discussion * [31]xmlIDSemantics-32: 1. [32]Chris Lilley draft finding. 2. Action CL 2003/06/30: Revise this draft finding with new input from reviewers. * [33]contentPresentation-26: Action CL 2003/06/02: Make available a draft finding on content/presentation. From 21 July ftf meeting, revision due 8 August. * [34]metadataInURI-31: 8 July 2003 draft of "[35]The use of Metadata in URIs" + Action SW 2003/07/21: Produce a revision of this finding based on Vancouver ftf meeting discussion. + Action DO 2003/07/07: Send rationale about why WSDL WG wants to peek inside the URI. + See also [36]TB email on Apple Music Store and use of URI schemes instead of headers + See comments from [37]Mark Nottingham and [38]followup from Noah M. * [39]abstractComponentRefs-37 + Action DO 2003/06/23: Point Jonathan Marsh at options. Ask them for their analysis. * NW, DO 2003/09/08: Produce new draft of Extensibility/Versioning finding, due 18 Sep. [31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlIDSemantics-32 [32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/xmlIDSemantics-32.html [33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26 [34] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#metadataInURI-31 [35] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31 [36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0151.html [37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0048.html [38] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0055.html [39] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#abstractComponentRefs-37 2.4.3 Expected new findings 1. [40]contentPresentation-26: Action CL (and IJ from ftf meeting) 2003/06/02: Make available a draft finding on content/presentation. From 21 July ftf meeting, revision due 8 August. 2. Action IJ 2003/06/09: Turn [41]TB apple story into a finding. [40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26 [41] http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/30/AppleWA 2.5 Issues The TAG does not expect to discuss these issues at this meeting. 2.5.1 Identifiers ([42]URIEquivalence-15 , [43]IRIEverywhere-27) [42] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15 [43] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27 * [44]URIEquivalence-15 + SW proposal: Track RFC2396bis where [45]Tim Bray text has been integrated. Comment within the IETF process. Move this issue to pending state. * [46]IRIEverywhere-27 + Action CL 2003/04/07: Revised position statement on use of IRIs. + Action TBL 2003/04/28: Explain how existing specifications that handle IRIs are inconsistent. [47]TBL draft not yet available on www-tag. + See TB's [48]proposed step forward on IRI 27. [44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15 [45] http://www.textuality.com/tag/uri-comp-4 [46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27 [47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0074.html [48] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0090.html 2.5.2 Qnames, fragments, and media types([49]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6, [50]fragmentInXML-28, [51]abstractComponentRefs-37, [52]putMediaType-38) [49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6 [50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28 [51] http://www.w3.org/2003/07/24-tag-summary.html#abstractComponentRefs-37 [52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38 * [53]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6 + Action DC 2003/02/06: Propose TAG response to XML Schema desideratum ([54]RQ-23). * [55]fragmentInXML-28 : Use of fragment identifiers in XML. 1. Connection to content negotiation? 2. Connection to opacity of URIs? 3. No actions associated / no owner. * [56]abstractComponentRefs-37(discussed [57]above). * [58]putMediaType-38 [53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6 [54] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-xmlschema-11-req-20030121/#N400183 [55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28 [56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#abstractComponentRefs-37 [57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/07/21-tag.html#findingsInProgress [58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38 2.5.3 New and other Issues requested for discussion. ([59]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33, [60]RDFinXHTML-35, [61]siteData-36 plus possible new issues) [59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33 [60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35 [61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#siteData-36 Existing Issues: * [62]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33 * [63]RDFinXHTML-35 * [64]siteData-36 + Action TBL 2003/02/24 : Summarize siteData-36 [62] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33 [63] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35 [64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#siteData-36 2.5.4 Miscellaneous issues * [65]uriMediaType-9 + IANA appears to have responded to the spirit of this draft (see [66]email from Chris Lilley).What's required to close this issue? + Action CL 2003/05/05: Propose CL's three changes to registration process to Ned Freed. [What forum?] * [67]HTTPSubstrate-16 + Action RF 2003/02/06: Write a response to IESG asking whether the Web services example in the SOAP 1.2 primer is intended to be excluded from RFC 3205 + See [68]message from Larry Masinter w.r.t. Web services. * [69]xlinkScope-23 + See [70]draft, and [71]SW message to CG chairs. + Action CL 2003/06/30: Ping the chairs of those groups asking for an update on xlinkScope-23. * [72]binaryXML-30 + Action TB 2003/02/17: Write to www-tag with his thoughts on adding to survey. + Action IJ 2003/07/21: Add link from issues list binaryXML-30 to upcoming workshop + Next steps to finding? See [73]summary from Chris. * [74]xmlFunctions-34 + Action TBL 2003/02/06: State the issue with a reference to XML Core work. See [75]email from TimBL capturing some of the issues. * [76]charmodReview-17 1. Action SW 2003/09/08: Follow up with I18N folks on status of TAG's charmod comments. 2. [77]Mail from DC to I18N WG in light of new Charmod draft * [78]rdfURIMeaning-39 [65] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#uriMediaType-9 [66] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0302.html [67] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#HTTPSubstrate-16 [68] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0208.html [69] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#xlinkScope-23 [70] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0094.html [71] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0104 [72] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#binaryXML-30 [73] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0224.html [74] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlFunctions-34 [75] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0309.html [76] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#charmodReview-17 [77] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Sep/0019.html [78] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#rdfURIMeaning-39 3. Other actions * Action IJ 2003/02/06: Modify issues list to show that actions/pending are orthogonal to decisions. PLH has put the issues list in production; see the [79]DOM issues list. [79] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/09-dom-core-issues/issues.html _________________________________________________________________ Ian Jacobs for Stuart Williams and TimBL Last modified: $Date: 2003/09/11 16:38:55 $ -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs Tel: +1 718 260-9447
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