- From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: 05 Sep 2003 12:10:02 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
Hello, The agenda for the 8 Sep TAG teleconf is available as HTML [1] and as text below. _ Ian [1] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/08-tag.html ======================================================== [1]W3C | [2]TAG | Previous: [3]18 Aug teleconf | Next: 15 Sep 2003 teleconf [1] http://www.w3.org/ [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0076.html Agenda of 8 September 2003 TAG teleconference Nearby: [4]Teleconference details · [5]issues list ([6]handling new issues)· [7]www-tag archive [4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#remote [5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist [6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.html [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/ Note: The Chair does not expect the agenda to change after close of business (Boston time) Thursday of this week. 1. Administrative (15min) 1. Roll call. Regrets: RF, DC, IJ, TBL. Scribe? 2. Accept the minutes of the [8]18 Aug teleconf? 3. Accept this [9]agenda? 4. Next meeting 15 Sep teleconf? [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0076.html [9] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/08-tag.html 1.1 Scheduling Completed action SW 2003/08/18: Review work plan from Vancouver F2F to help with schedule ([10]done) [10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Aug/0037.html See below for information about [11]Arch Doc scheduling. 1.2 Bristol meeting planning (6 - 8 Oct) See [12]meeting page for information about suggested hotels. [12] http://www.w3.org/2003/10/06-tag-mtg Completed action SW 2003/08/18: Suggest hotel ([13]done) [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Sep/0004.html 2. Technical (75min) 2.1 NamespaceDocument-8 Status of work on [14]namespaceDocument-8. * Action TB 2003/04/07: Prepare RDDL Note. Include in status section that there is TAG consensus that RDDL is a suitable format for representations of an XML namespace. Clean up messy section 4 of RDDL draft and investigate and publish a canonical mapping to RDF. From 21 July ftf meeting, due 31 August. * Action PC 2003/04/07: Prepare finding to answer this issue, pointing to the RDDL Note. See [15]comments from Paul regarding TB theses. From 21 July ftf meeting, due 31 August. * Refer to draft TAG [16]opinion from Tim Bray on the use of URNs for namespace names. [14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/07/21-tag#namespaceDocument-8 [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0046.html [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0003.html 2.2 Versioning and extensibility * Completed Action NW, DO 2003/08/21: Finding on extensibility, due 15 August 2003 ([17]done) [17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning.html 2.3 Status of overdue action items * Action RF 2003/06/02: Rewrite section 3. From 21 July ftf meeting, due 18 August * [18]contentPresentation-26: Action CL (and IJ from ftf meeting) 2003/06/02: Make available a draft finding on content/presentation. From 21 July ftf meeting, revision due 8 August. [18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26 Findings: * [19]whenToUseGet-7: 9 July 2003 draft of [20]URIs, Addressability, and the use of HTTP GET and POST + DO said he had additional comments at 21 July 2003 ftf meeting. + See [21]comments from Noah [19] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#whenToUseGet-7 [20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet-20030709.html [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0297.html 2.4 Architecture Document Reference draft: [22]1 August 2003 Editor's Draft of the Arch Doc [22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/webarch-20030801 What is TAG's expectation of editor at this point? For example: 1. IJ closes loop on introduction with TB, RF (DC?). There was discussion at the [23]18 Aug teleconf about a [24]rewrite of the abstract and introduction 2. Editor's draft 17 Sep 3. Reviewed at 22 Sep TAG teleconf 4. IJ incorporates comments, gets review from two TAG participants, and requests 1 Oct TR publication 5. New TR draft published 1 Oct 6. TAG reviews 1 Oct draft for and at face-to-face meeting 6 Oct. [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0076.html [24] http://www.w3.org/2003/08/webarch-intro-20030813.html 2.4.1 Review of actions related to Architecture Document Open action items: * Action RF 2003/06/02: Rewrite section 3. From 21 July ftf meeting, due 18 August. * Action IJ 2003/06/16: Attempt to incorporate relevant bits of "[25]Conversations and State" into section to be produced by RF. * Action TBL 2003/07/14: Suggest changes to section about extensibility related to "when to tunnel". * Action CL 2003/07/21: Create an illustration of two resources, one designated by URI without fragment, and one designated by same URI with fragment... * Action TB 2003/08/18: Bring some Vancouver ftf meeting photos to IJ attention (of whiteboard, re: CL action about illustration of two resources) * Action IJ, CL 2003/07/21: Discuss and propose improved wording of language regarding SVG spec in bulleted list in 2.5.1. * Action TBL 2003/07/21: Propose a replacement to "URI persistence ...person's mailbox" in 2.6 and continue to revise [26]TBL draft of section 2.6 based on TAG's 23 July discussion. * Action DC 2003/07/21: Propose language for section 2.8.5 showing examples of freenet and other systems. * Action TB 2003/08/04: Write a definition of "XML-based" * Action IJ 2003/08/04: s/machine-readable/something like: optimized for processors, w/ defn that includes notion that it can be processed unattended (by a person). * Completed action NW 2003/08/04: Redraft 4.10.2 to include some good practice notes (e.g., use namespaces!) ([27]done) * Completed action NW 2003/08/04: Rewrite para 4 of 4.10.4 ([28]done) * Action TB and CL 2003/07/21: Propose a replacement sentence in section 3.2.2.1 regarding advantages of text formats. IRC log of [29]18 Aug teleconf suggested done, but can't find evidence. [25] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Conversations [26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/webarch/tim [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Sep/0002.html [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Sep/0008.html [29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0076.html The following action items were follow-up from the 22 July face-to-face meeting in Vancouver: * Identification and resources 1. TBL 2003/08/21: Write replacement text for Moby Dick example in section 2.6 (on URI ambiguity). Is this done in [30]TBL's draft? * Representations 1. TB, IJ 2003/08/21: Integrate findings. What does this mean? [30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/webarch/tim#URI-persistence _________________________________________________________________ 2.2 Findings See also [31]TAG findings home page. [31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings/ 2.2.1 Draft findings nearing closure * [32]contentTypeOverride-24: 9 July 2003 draft of [33]Client handling of MIME headers 1. [34]Comments from Roy on charset param 2. [35]Comments from Philipp Hoschka about usability issues when user involved in error correction. Is there a new Voice spec out we can point to for example behavior? 3. [36]Comments from Chris Lilley 4. Change "MIME headers" to "server metadata" in title? * Action IJ 2003/07/21: Update Deep linking finding (i.e., create a new revision) with references to [37]German court decision regarding deep linking. No additional review required since just an external reference. [32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentTypeOverride-24 [33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect.html [34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0051.html [35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0076.html [36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0113.html [37] http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bgh&Sort=3&Datum=2003&Art=pm&client=3&Blank=1&nr=26553&id=1058517255.04 2.2.2 Draft findings that require more discussion * [38]xmlIDSemantics-32: 1. [39]Chris Lilley draft finding. 2. Action CL 2003/06/30: Revise this draft finding with new input from reviewers. * [40]contentPresentation-26: Action CL 2003/06/02: Make available a draft finding on content/presentation. From 21 July ftf meeting, revision due 8 August. * [41]metadataInURI-31: 8 July 2003 draft of "[42]The use of Metadata in URIs" + Action SW 2003/07/21: Produce a revision of this finding based on Vancouver ftf meeting discussion. + Action DO 2003/07/07: Send rationale about why WSDL WG wants to peek inside the URI. + See also [43]TB email on Apple Music Store and use of URI schemes instead of headers + See comments from [44]Mark Nottingham and [45]followup from Noah M. * [46]abstractComponentRefs-37 + Action DO 2003/06/23: Point Jonathan Marsh at options. Ask them for their analysis. [38] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlIDSemantics-32 [39] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/xmlIDSemantics-32.html [40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26 [41] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#metadataInURI-31 [42] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31 [43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0151.html [44] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0048.html [45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0055.html [46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#abstractComponentRefs-37 2.2.3 Expected new findings 1. Action IJ 2003/06/09: Turn [47]TB apple story into a finding. 2. Action PC: Finding on namespace documents, due 31 August 2003 [47] http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/30/AppleWA 2.3 Issues The TAG does not expect to discuss these issues at this meeting. 2.3.1 Identifiers ([48]URIEquivalence-15 , [49]IRIEverywhere-27) [48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15 [49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27 * [50]URIEquivalence-15 + SW proposal: Track RFC2396bis where [51]Tim Bray text has been integrated. Comment within the IETF process. Move this issue to pending state. * [52]IRIEverywhere-27 + Action CL 2003/04/07: Revised position statement on use of IRIs. + Action TBL 2003/04/28: Explain how existing specifications that handle IRIs are inconsistent. [53]TBL draft not yet available on www-tag. + See TB's [54]proposed step forward on IRI 27. [50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15 [51] http://www.textuality.com/tag/uri-comp-4 [52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27 [53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0074.html [54] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0090.html 2.3.2 Qnames, fragments, and media types([55]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6, [56]fragmentInXML-28, [57]abstractComponentRefs-37, [58]putMediaType-38) [55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6 [56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28 [57] http://www.w3.org/2003/07/24-tag-summary.html#abstractComponentRefs-37 [58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38 * [59]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6 + Action DC 2003/02/06: Propose TAG response to XML Schema desideratum ([60]RQ-23). * [61]fragmentInXML-28 : Use of fragment identifiers in XML. 1. Connection to content negotiation? 2. Connection to opacity of URIs? 3. No actions associated / no owner. * [62]abstractComponentRefs-37(discussed [63]above). * [64]putMediaType-38 [59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6 [60] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-xmlschema-11-req-20030121/#N400183 [61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28 [62] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#abstractComponentRefs-37 [63] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/07/21-tag.html#findingsInProgress [64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38 2.3.3 New and other Issues requested for discussion. ([65]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33, [66]RDFinXHTML-35, [67]siteData-36 plus possible new issues) [65] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33 [66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35 [67] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#siteData-36 Existing Issues: * [68]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33 * [69]RDFinXHTML-35 * [70]siteData-36 + Action TBL 2003/02/24 : Summarize siteData-36 [68] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33 [69] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35 [70] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#siteData-36 2.3.5 Miscellaneous issues * [71]uriMediaType-9 + IANA appears to have responded to the spirit of this draft (see [72]email from Chris Lilley).What's required to close this issue? + Action CL 2003/05/05: Propose CL's three changes to registration process to Ned Freed. [What forum?] * [73]HTTPSubstrate-16 + Action RF 2003/02/06: Write a response to IESG asking whether the Web services example in the SOAP 1.2 primer is intended to be excluded from RFC 3205 + See [74]message from Larry Masinter w.r.t. Web services. * [75]xlinkScope-23 + See [76]draft, and [77]SW message to CG chairs. + Action CL 2003/06/30: Ping the chairs of those groups asking for an update on xlinkScope-23. * [78]binaryXML-30 + Action TB 2003/02/17: Write to www-tag with his thoughts on adding to survey. + Action IJ 2003/07/21: Add link from issues list binaryXML-30 to upcoming workshop + Next steps to finding? See [79]summary from Chris. * [80]xmlFunctions-34 + Action TBL 2003/02/06: State the issue with a reference to XML Core work. See [81]email from TimBL capturing some of the issues. * [82]charmodReview-17 1. Completed action IJ 2003/07/14: Move issue 17 to pending rather than resolved. 2. Completed action DC: Remind I18N WG of what we are expecting regarding issue 17; send this on behalf of the TAG ([83]Done 3. [84]Mail from DC to I18N WG in light of new Charmod draft * [85]rdfURIMeaning-39 1. Completed Action DC 2003/08/18: Alert SWCG of this issues ([86]done) [71] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#uriMediaType-9 [72] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0302.html [73] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#HTTPSubstrate-16 [74] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0208.html [75] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#xlinkScope-23 [76] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0094.html [77] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0104 [78] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#binaryXML-30 [79] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0224.html [80] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlFunctions-34 [81] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0309.html [82] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#charmodReview-17 [83] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0052.html [84] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Sep/0019.html [85] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#rdfURIMeaning-39 [86] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Sep/0003.html 3. Other actions * Action IJ 2003/02/06: Modify issues list to show that actions/pending are orthogonal to decisions. PLH has put the issues list in production; see the [87]DOM issues list. [87] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/09-dom-core-issues/issues.html _________________________________________________________________ Ian Jacobs for Stuart Williams and TimBL Last modified: $Date: 2003/09/05 16:07:32 $ -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs Tel: +1 718 260-9447
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