- From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: 12 Jun 2003 07:28:08 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
Hello,
The agenda for the 16 June 2003 TAG teleconference is
available at HTML [1] and as text below.
- Ian
[1] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/16-tag.html
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Agenda for 16 June 2003 TAG teleconference
1. Administrative (15min)
1. Confirm Chair (SW), Scribe (IJ). Regrets: PC
2. Accept minutes of [7]9 Jun teleconference[8]?
3. Accept this [9]agenda?
4. Next meeting: 23 June?
5. Face-to-face meeting scheduling details:
+ Monday 1pm start time?
+ Convene for lunch on Monday before Monday start time?
+ On Weds, adjourn at 12:30 or 5pm?
6. Summer meeting planning; see [10]request from Stuart
7. TAG partcipation in XML 2003? See [11]email from Paul
[7] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/09-tag-summary.html
[8] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/02-tag-summary.html
[9] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/16-tag.html
[10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jun/0048.html
[11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jun/0027.html
2. Technical (75 mins)
2.1 Architecture document (10 minutes)
The TAG does not expect to discuss the Arch Doc at this meeting,
except to review action items.
1. [12]26 Mar 2003 Working Draft of Arch Doc:
1. Action DC 2003/01/27: write two pages on correct and
incorrect application of REST to an actual web page design.
DC requests to withdraw this one.
2. Action DO 2003/01/27: Please send writings regarding Web
services to tag@w3.org. DO grants DC license to cut and paste
and put into DC writing.
3. Action DC 2003/03/17: : Write some text for interactions
chapter of arch doc related to [13]message passing, a dual of
shared state. DC refers us to [14]Conversations and State
[12] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-webarch-20030326/
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Mar/0018.html
[14] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Conversations
Actions from 2 June meeting:
1. RF to rewrite section 5. Section 5 is expected to be short.
2. TB to rewrite section 4 based on his [15]proposal for rewriting
section 4and suggestions from the TAG from 2 Jun teleconf.
([16]Done)
3. CL to make available a draft finding on content/presentation.
4. DO to update [17]description of [18]issue abstractComponentRefs-37
5. SW: to continue work on and make available a draft finding related
to the opacity of URIs.
6. NW: Take a stab at proposed new 4.5, wherever it ends up.
7. DO: Write up a couple of paragraphs on extensibility for section
4.
8. IJ: to start incorporating detailed suggestions on Arch Doc made
by the TAG (see [19]IRC log for details)
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003May/0101.html
[16] http://www.tbray.org/tag/wa-c4.html
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0089.html
[18] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/24-tag-summary.html#abstractComponentRefs-37
[19] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/02-tagmem-irc.html
Actions from 9 June meeting:
1. IJ:
1. compare 3.2 text with RFC2396 version 3; compare and
harmonize; leaving about the same amount of text.
2. add a new 3.x section on allocating URIs; taking some text
from rfc2396bis/3.2 and expanding slightly on social aspects.
3. integrate RF's 3.5 into from RFC2396bis into arch doc section
3.3.
4. See additional notes in minutes of [20]9 Jun teleconference
2. DO/PC: Send draft of AC announcement regarding TAG's last call
expectations/thoughts to tag@w3.org.
[20] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/09-tag-summary.html
2.2 Findings (20 mins)
See also: [21]findings.
[21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings
Next steps for draft findings:
* [22]Client handling of MIME headers; see [23]summary of comments.
* [24]URIs, Addressability, and the use of HTTP GET and POST; see
[25]summary of comments. See also [26]comments from Larry
Masinter.
* [27]How should the problem of identifying ID semantics in XML
languages be addressed in the absence of a DTD?
[22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect.html
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003May/0099.html
[24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet-20030509.html
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003May/0099.html
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003May/0104.html
[27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/xmlIDSemantics-32.html
Action IJ 2003/06/09: Turn [28]TB apple story into a finding.
[28] http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/30/AppleWA
2.3 Issues the TAG intends to discuss (30 mins)
The TAG expects to do a walk-through of the open and pending
[29]issues in order to determine:
* Which ones we are near closing
* Which ones we can commit to close w.r.t. last call of the arch doc
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html
Then, we expect to work on issues we think we are near closing.
2.4 New issues? (10 mins)
2.5 Issues that have associated action items
* [30]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
+ Action DC 2003/02/06: Propose TAG response to XML Schema
desideratum ([31]RQ-23).
* [32]whenToUseGet-7
+ Next step for [33]revised draft finding?
* [34]namespaceDocument-8
+ Action TB 2003/04/07: Prepare RDDL Note. Include in status
section that there is TAG consensus that RDDL is a suitable
format for representations of an XML namespace. Clean up
messy section 4 of RDDL draft and investigate and publish a
canonical mapping to RDF. See TB's [35]1 June version.
+ Action PC 2003/04/07: Prepare finding to answer this issue,
pointing to the RDDL Note. See [36]comments from Paul
regarding TB theses.
+ Refer to draft TAG [37]opinion from Tim Brayon the use of
URNs for namespace names.
o RF: Folks assume that because the specs say so, URNs
will be persisitent. But persistence is a function of
institutional commitment and frequency of use.
* [38]uriMediaType-9
+ IANA appears to have responded to the spirit of this draft
(see [39]email from Chris Lilley).What's required to close
this issue?
+ Action CL 2003/05/05: Propose CL's three changes to
registration process to Ned Freed. [What forum?]
* [40]URIEquivalence-15
+ SW proposal: Track RFC2396bis where [41]Tim Bray text has
been integrated. Comment within the IETF process. Move this
issue to pending state.
* [42]HTTPSubstrate-16
+ Action RF 2003/02/06: Write a response to IESG asking whether
the Web services example in the SOAP 1.2 primer is intended
to be excluded from RFC 3205
+ See [43]message from Larry Masinter w.r.t. Web services.
* [44]errorHandling-20
+ Action CL 2003/02/06: Write a draft finding on the topic of
(1) early/late detection of errors (2) late/early binding (3)
robustness (4) definition of errors (5) recovery once error
has been signaled. Due first week of March.
* [45]xlinkScope-23
+ Status report?
+ See [46]draft, and [47]SW message to CG chairs.
* [48]contentTypeOverride-24
+ Next step on finding "[49]Client handling of MIME headers"
+ [50]Speech Recognition Grammar Specification Version 1.0,
section [51]2.2.2 External Reference by URI
* [52]contentPresentation-26
+ Action CL 2003/02/06: Create a draft finding in this space.
Due 3 March.
* [53]IRIEverywhere-27
+ Action CL 2003/04/07: Revised position statement on use of
IRIs. CL says to expect this by 21 April.
+ Action TBL 2003/04/28: Explain how existing specifications
that handle IRIs are inconsistent. [54]TBL draft not yet
available on www-tag.
+ See TB's[55]proposed step forward on IRI 27.
* [56]fragmentInXML-28 : Use of fragment identifiers in XML.
1. Connection to content negotiation?
2. Connection to opacity of URIs?
3. No actions associated / no owner.
* [57]binaryXML-30
+ Action TB 2003/02/17: Write to www-tag with his thoughts on
adding to survey.
+ Next steps to finding? See [58]summary from Chris.
* [59]metadataInURI-31
+ Action SW 2003/02/06: Draft finding for this one. See [60]SW
proposal
+ See also [61]TB email on Apple Music Store and use of URI
schemes instead of headers
* [62]xmlIDSemantics-32
+ See [63]Chris Lilley draft finding.
Action NW 2003/05/05: Point Core WG to CL finding once made
public.
* [64]xmlFunctions-34
+ Action TBL 2003/02/06: State the issue with a reference to
XML Core work. See [65]email from TimBL capturing some of the
issues.
* [66]siteData-36
+ Action TBL 2003/02/24 : Summarize siteData-36
* [67]abstractComponentRefs-37
+ See [68]issue description from David Orchard. Next steps?
[30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
[31] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-xmlschema-11-req-20030121/#N400183
[32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#whenToUseGet-7
[33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/get7-20020610.html
[34] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#namespaceDocument-8
[35] http://www.tbray.org/tag/rddl/rddl3.html
[36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0046.html
[37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0003.html
[38] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#uriMediaType-9
[39] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0302.html
[40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15
[41] http://www.textuality.com/tag/uri-comp-4
[42] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#HTTPSubstrate-16
[43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0208.html
[44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#errorHandling-20
[45] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#xlinkScope-23
[46] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0094.html
[47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0104
[48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentTypeOverride-24
[49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect.html
[50] http://www.w3.org/TR/speech-grammar/
[51] http://www.w3.org/TR/speech-grammar/#S2.2.2
[52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26
[53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27
[54] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0074.html
[55] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0090.html
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28
[57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#binaryXML-30
[58] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0224.html
[59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#metadataInURI-31
[60] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003May/0050.html
[61] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0151.html
[62] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlIDSemantics-32
[63] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/xmlIDSemantics-32.html
[64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlFunctions-34
[65] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0309.html
[66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#siteData-36
[67] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/24-tag-summary.html#abstractComponentRefs-37
[68] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0089.html
3. Other actions
* Action IJ 2003/02/06: Modify issues list to show that
actions/pending are orthogonal to decisions. IJ and PLH making
substantial progress on this; hope to have something to show in
May.
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Ian Jacobs for Stuart Williams and TimBL
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