- From: Bullard, Claude L (Len) <clbullar@ingr.com>
- Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:53:34 -0600
- To: 'Dare Obasanjo' <dareo@microsoft.com>, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>, www-tag@w3.org
You want cross-platform? Well that isn't in the original requirements so it will cost more. :-) I think I don't understand the problem being posed. If I click on http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.rss in Outlook, I get the File download box with the usual warnings about content and options. I can't click on feed://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.rss because Outlook doesn't see http:/ and create a control on the fly for that as an inline hyperlink. It seems what Tim is asking is for Outlook to recognize feed:/ , turn it blue and make it clickable such that it opens the RSS client without knowing that .rss is at the end of the string. Is that it? Is Tim asking not only for a new URI type, but for a new URI handler to be added to all text display clients so it recognizes feed:/ ? If one is pushing the value to the client as in email and wants it to do what I describe above, you are right. If one has the value otherwise, one pastes it into a field with a button with script logic to microparse the string, then open the RSS client and pass it that value, using the usual hyperlink object voodoo VBA provides. len From: Dare Obasanjo [mailto:dareo@microsoft.com] I don't follow. What is the cross platform way for a website owner to create a "control" that knows how to launch arbitrary aggregators on the client machine and subscribe to a feed. The analogy to this scenario is the mailto: URI scheme. How would you use a GUI control with event logic to replace it's traditional behavior when clicked by users on the WWW? From: www-tag-request@w3.org on behalf of Bullard, Claude L (Len) Doesn't that conflate the role of the URI as an identifier and its role as a data value to a control? Couldn't they do this by implementing a GUI control with event logic? Why should browser vendors implement yetAnotherURIasClickEvent? len From: Tim Bray [mailto:tbray@textuality.com] RSS feeds are ordinary web resources and have ordinary URIs. For example: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.rss is one, and as the scheme suggests, is typically fetched via HTTP and there's lots of scope for caching and all the usual helpful HTTP machinery. However, there's a lot of talk in the RSS community recently about wanting a new URI scheme, e.g. feed://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.rss. The reason is that they want to be able to click on one of these things and wake up the RSS client to read it and potentially subscribe. You really can't do this with MIME types because the RSS client doesn't need the representation, it needs the URI. Once you've got a new scheme, in popular operating systems it's straightforward to cause them to be handed to an app of your choice when clicked on. In general it seems nuts to create a new scheme for URIs that describe ordinary HTTP-accessible web resources, but I don't see any other obviously-good solutions.
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