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RE: fragment identifiers

From: <nick@webthing.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:50:34 +0100 (BST)
To: Joshua Allen <joshuaa@MICROSOFT.com>
cc: www-tag@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207262245100.1325-100000@jarl.webthing.com>

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Joshua Allen wrote:

> > > The *web* is about accessing resources.  The *semantic* web is about
> > > *describing* resources, even those which cannot be accessed.
> Describing
> > > does not and should not require accessing.
> > 
> > EARL and Annotea are used to describe resources that must be accessed
> > for the metadata to be meaningful.  That is clearly not obvious to
> Wrong.  The metadata can be created and queried without accessing the
> resource.  The resources themselves are resources which are useful only
> when they are accessed via HTTP GET.  But that is a limitation of the
> resource and the REST model, not a limitation of the metadata.

EARL and Annotea talk about things like "the third paragraph in
a division labelled main in a document at http://xyz/".  Are you
suggesting they should do so without reference to some content
retreived from the URL?

> The concept is even more fundamental to the *semantic* web.  If you must
> do GET on a resource to be able to make assertions about it, you have a
> brittle system that will never scale.

I never said that you had to.  But certain types of assertion can only
be meaningful when referenced to content retrieved - typically by GET.

Nick Kew
Received on Friday, 26 July 2002 17:50:38 UTC

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