Re: [mediaqueries] visibility past coarse pointers

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Geoffrey Sneddon <> wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Henrik Andersson <> wrote:
>>>> Tab Atkins Jr. skrev:
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 5:58 AM, Geoffrey Sneddon <> wrote:
>>>>>> One thing that's come up when thinking about design approaches
>>>>>> recently is about the necessity to position content such that it isn't
>>>>>> obscured when using a touch screen.
>>>>>> Imagine a graph which on a desktop shows a label for the current
>>>>>> position giving the raw value on hover adjacent to the cursor. Now, on
>>>>>> mobile, we can do this using touch events instead of hover. *However*,
>>>>>> it doesn't make sense to show the label adjacent to the touch location
>>>>>> because it'll be largely obscured by the pointing device.
>>>>>> I'm unconvinced it really makes sense to use pointer: coarse for this,
>>>>>> though maybe it can be implied that any coarse pointer will obscure
>>>>>> content?
>>>>> I think you should use "I'm gonna use touch events" as the trigger here.
>>>>> If you really insist on using MQs as a proxy, tho, it's actually the
>>>>> (hover) query you want.  If you can't hover, that means you're gonna
>>>>> have to poke at the screen with *something* to activate things, and
>>>>> that thing will obscure what it's poking at least a little.
>>>> Not quite. There are hover enabled pens.
>>> Mm, true.  Back to the "use the different style when you use touch
>>> events", then.
>> That doesn't work in the case of the Wii browser's massive cursor,
>> though, does it? (It's been too long since I've used a Wii or anything
>> else with massive ten-foot cursors…)
> Do you mean that you think you want the "pop it a little distance
> away" for a Wii cursor too?  Shouldn't be necessary - it's not that
> big.

Yes, I think it's probably a good idea to move it slightly further away.

That said, I don't this issue should block Media Queries Level 4, but
I think it probably would be worth revisiting something related to how
to solve content needing repositioned depending on granularity of
pointers (regardless of whether that's touch or large cursors).


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