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Re: [css-text] copying text-transform'd text

From: Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:03:57 -0400
Message-ID: <CADxXqOxqdXxz8bAH4Wsb5L6O_AqbSZKGPh=LZ8ZvSc74wauxGA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com>
Cc: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2015, at 11:41, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net> wrote:
>>
>> I think we probably need to get the browsers to agree on this
>> issue and put the required behavior in the spec, so authors know
>> what to expect.
>>
>> Personally I don't think the copied text should be affected by
>> the transform: if that's a key part of the text's presentation,
>> then it should be done in the source. There's a lot of cases
>> where it wouldn't make sense to copy out the style. E.g. putting
>> the first word (or phrase) of an article is a stylistic choice
>> that shouldn't come out in the plaintext copy.
>
> I disagree on both the desired behavior and standardizing this behavior.
>
> I personally prefer What You See Is What You Copy. How it’s written in the source file doesn’t matter much to me when I’m viewing a web site. Especially if we were to introduce regex based text-transform in future, it’s even more confusing.
>
> And I think plain-textizing belongs to browser UX. If you don’t like a behavior in your favorite browser, filing a bug to the browser makes more sense to me.

Per the Working Group call yesterday, here are some browser bugs
around this issue:

Mozilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35148
Webkit (old): https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3429
Webkit (new):  https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43202

There doesn't seem to be consensus, but it's only been sixteen years.

Dave
Received on Thursday, 20 October 2016 13:04:28 UTC

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