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Re: [mediaqueries] visibility past coarse pointers

From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 15:36:55 -0800
Message-ID: <CAAWBYDChz06i9n1vPxRjNrFgxMzy1R8bDFA=G6+yH-ecnM2Y3Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Geoffrey Sneddon <me@gsnedders.com>
Cc: Henrik Andersson <henke@henke37.cjb.net>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Geoffrey Sneddon <me@gsnedders.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Henrik Andersson <henke@henke37.cjb.net> wrote:
>>> Tab Atkins Jr. skrev:
>>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 5:58 AM, Geoffrey Sneddon <me@gsnedders.com> wrote:
>>>>> One thing that's come up when thinking about design approaches
>>>>> recently is about the necessity to position content such that it isn't
>>>>> obscured when using a touch screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Imagine a graph which on a desktop shows a label for the current
>>>>> position giving the raw value on hover adjacent to the cursor. Now, on
>>>>> mobile, we can do this using touch events instead of hover. *However*,
>>>>> it doesn't make sense to show the label adjacent to the touch location
>>>>> because it'll be largely obscured by the pointing device.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm unconvinced it really makes sense to use pointer: coarse for this,
>>>>> though maybe it can be implied that any coarse pointer will obscure
>>>>> content?
>>>> I think you should use "I'm gonna use touch events" as the trigger here.
>>>>
>>>> If you really insist on using MQs as a proxy, tho, it's actually the
>>>> (hover) query you want.  If you can't hover, that means you're gonna
>>>> have to poke at the screen with *something* to activate things, and
>>>> that thing will obscure what it's poking at least a little.
>>>
>>> Not quite. There are hover enabled pens.
>>
>> Mm, true.  Back to the "use the different style when you use touch
>> events", then.
>
> That doesn't work in the case of the Wii browser's massive cursor,
> though, does it? (It's been too long since I've used a Wii or anything
> else with massive ten-foot cursors…)

Do you mean that you think you want the "pop it a little distance
away" for a Wii cursor too?  Shouldn't be necessary - it's not that
big.

~TJ
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