- From: L. David Baron <dbaron@dbaron.org>
- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:33:43 +0900
- To: www-style@w3.org
- Message-ID: <20151027023343.GA14810@pescadero.dbaron.org>
We (Shane, Florian, Tab, me, Simon Pieters) had a side-discussion at the face-to-face meeting (during break) about what we want instead of https://drafts.csswg.org/css-round-display/#device-radius-media-feature . Tab initially wanted to just have three keyword categories (essentially rectangular, rounded-corners, circular/ellitical), but I'm very hesitant to have more than two categories, because I think we either want media queries to be boolean or to be numeric. Florian wanted a query to reflect (I think) whether a box with length or percentage corner-radius (for circular or elliptical corners) fits entirely within the display; or something like that; I can't accurately reflect the details. Tab wasn't happy about this messing with numeric-sorting aspects of media queries, although I pointed out that some of these objections are less serious in MQ4 with its better not, they're still a serious pitfall for authors. I proposed a slight variant that messed with media queries less, in which there were separate queries for the most-rounded rectangle that contained the screen, and the least-rounded rectangle that fits entirely inside the screen, but that option didn't seem particularly clearer. But Shane pointed out that in real cases, treating the corners separately is important, and furthermore proposed that what we really want is not tests for rounding, but tests for whether placing something at a particular point on the display will be visible in the screen. This led to the conclusion that what we really want is a media query for whether certain points (probably specifiable in different coordinate systems, e.g., polar, percentages, pixels) are visible within the display. We had a bit of discussion about whether points are sufficient, or whether we really want the test to be for squares or rectangles being inside the display. (We considered circles, but I thought that testing a square or rectangle is generally more useful because things like text tend to be rectangles.) I think at this point the next step would be somebody writing up a proposal for how to fit this (relatively complex) query inside of media queries. (This is intended to fit into the minutes to explain some of what happened during the break, since there was discussion both before and after the break.) -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 Before I built a wall I'd ask to know What I was walling in or walling out, And to whom I was like to give offense. - Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914)
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