Re: [css-logical-properties] the 'inline-{start,end}' values for 'float' and 'clear'

On Nov 7, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Johannes Wilm <johannes@fiduswriter.org> wrote:

>> It would be so much simpler is floats and exclusions were kept separate, aside from properties that applied to both in similar but different ways. 
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> You have made the argument that page floats should have a different name. I can see some validity to that, although I don't think it is a problem. Maybe this is something we should have the input on from others.

I suggest "wrap-float" for the property name, and using "wrap-" as the prefix for the other properties. "Wrap-" says that it is exclusion related, and not the normal kind of floating, and "-float" says that it is similar to regular floats. And this way, it wouldn't pollute the 'float' property with values that are actually creating exclusions, when exclusions are really an alternative to floats. 

>>> However, the question came up recently again, and it seems Tab advises to have this spec take over all types of floats [2]. If we do that, then probably the name should change to the "CSS Floats or some such thing.
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>> I could be wrong, but I took his comment to mean the float spec needed to be re-described in full, in light of how the new properties change and add to it. I wonder if he realized that it is not intended to change actually floating behavior, aside from using the property name to create a special kind of exclusion instead. 
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>> We do need to work logical properties into an updated float spec, for inline start and end, at least. 
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> The spec has reached FPWD status and people have had time to review. The idea to make page floats just positioned exclusions is not something I came up with myself, but has been a suggestion by other CSSWG members, most of which I remember Rossen. CSS Floats were also discussed at the F2F meeting in New York and it was made clear that page floats are a combination of positioning and exclusions. You can find some discussion about that in the minutes related to "position-fragment".

"Time to review" a FPWD is not the same as "too late to make major changes".