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Re: [css3-ui] file formats for the cursor property

From: Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:53:08 -0400
Message-ID: <CAEV2_WbbSquqAy7Msm+20x80HVdaTgqVMBkCZc=FoVnFpESeTw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>
Cc: www-style list <www-style@w3.org>, Greg Whitworth <gwhit@microsoft.com>, Rossen Atanassov <Rossen.Atanassov@microsoft.com>
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Daniel Glazman
<daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com> wrote:
> On 18/03/15 07:09, Tantek Çelik wrote:
>
>> Regardless, we CANNOT add a MUST requirement of an aspect (i.e.
>> format) a feature that is defined in a spec which we are unable to
>> normatively reference (lack of open spec), and since there is no open
>> spec for .ico and .cur, we are unable to normatively reference them.
>>
>> This is based on W3C rules for normative references - and we may not
>> even be able to publish an updated draft if we attempt to normatively
>> reference something that violates W3C's referencing policy.
>>
>> It doesn't matter if you or the whole group thinks we should
>> normatively reference a non-open spec - W3C publishing / process will
>> reject it.
>
>
> That's correct.
>
> But we could at least add an informal note to the spec saying
> that cur and ico are the two interoperable formats implemented by all
> engines at the time of publication of the document

I am in favor of this as it is a factual note.


> and that all new
> implementations are strongly encouraged to implement them too.

I'm not sure about "strongly". Even though it is a note (especially
because it's a note?) I'd still prefer a should, something like.

 New implementations should consider implementing them as well.


> I am then asking Microsoft to provide the WG with authoritative and
> stable URLs containing specification of cur and ico formats we could
> use as informative reference. If there are no such documents, create
> them?

For now I suggest this as informative reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICO_%28file_format%29

I'd like to make this edit ASAP, however I heard via IRC that we are
waiting per request from Rossen to hear back from him / Microsoft?

Thanks,

Tantek
Received on Friday, 20 March 2015 19:54:24 UTC

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