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Re: [css-text][css-conditional] language specific support for hyphenation and justification

From: Florian Rivoal <florian@rivoal.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:09:07 +0200
Cc: Peter Moulder <pjrm@mail.internode.on.net>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>, www International <www-international@w3.org>
Message-Id: <5BBD8072-2369-4807-A282-46ED62B9CAD2@rivoal.net>
To: Asmus Freytag <asmusf@ix.netcom.com>

> On 17 Jun 2015, at 16:53, Asmus Freytag <asmusf@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> On 6/17/2015 6:51 AM, Peter Moulder wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 03:40:30PM +0200, Florian Rivoal wrote:
>>>> On 16 Jun 2015, at 15:29, Alan Stearns <stearns@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> While hyphenation is often necessary for nice justification,
> Viewing hyphenation only in the context of justification seems to me a bias from the perspective of languages where most words are short or medium length.
> 
> There are languages where you might want to hyphenate even without (full) justification. Without it, the margins can get excessively ragged, and narrow columns can be overrun by many single words, some of them quite common.

I didn't mean that this was the only cases where hyphenation is needed. The spec definitely supports turning on hyphenation on its own, and that's important.

The case I was concerned about is when you may want hyphenation anyway, but you don't want to turn on justification unless you know that hyphenation is working.

> For obvious reasons, those languages also do not exhibit the same bias against hyphenation. Where lack of hyphenation is exhibited today, it's an unfortunate effect of English dominated software.
> 
> It would be nice to ensure that examples and specifications do not add to this bias.

I don't think the spec as it is shows this bias, but if you think it does, can you point to where, so that we can address it?

 - Florian
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