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Re: [css-fonts] "system" generic font name

From: Dean Jackson <dino@apple.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 08:54:23 +1000
Cc: Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>, www-style <www-style@w3.org>
Message-Id: <F93367A8-E25E-49DF-ADB3-05F849861519@apple.com>
To: Robert O'Callahan <robert@ocallahan.org>

> On 15 Jul 2015, at 8:47 AM, Robert O'Callahan <robert@ocallahan.org> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Dean Jackson <dino@apple.com <mailto:dino@apple.com>> wrote:
> > On 15 Jul 2015, at 7:42 AM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net <mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Wouldn't your "system" be equivalent to or duplicative of one or more of the
> > 6 existing "system" fonts on http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-fonts/#font-prop <http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-fonts/#font-prop> ,
> > e.g. menu?
> 
> This whole thing is weird. It makes specifying fallback font-families strange - you now move them to the font shorthand.
> Even though you can then override size/weight/etc after the shorthand, it seems yucky that you have to use a shorthand just to get what is effectively a font-family.
> 
> Per David's email, don't you also need a way to set font size/weight etc to values that match system usage? And isn't the 'font' property the best way to do this?

Not at this point. Or, more accurately, not with this proposal. We just want to match the family.

Aside: on iOS we do have similar font keywords like your -mozilla-foo. For example, -apple-system-headline1, which provides a family, weight, style, size, etc. These also dynamically respond to what the user chooses in their accessibility settings. We're not talking about those in this proposal.

Dean
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