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Re: [css-writing-modes] text-orientation: sideways-left

From: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:25:40 +0900
Message-ID: <CAN9ydbXzDgpkMvk-Pev34pFsYr_OQiTX-ue-6pDkoPNcQeS=8Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Cc: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>, Jonathan Kew <jfkthame@gmail.com>, smontagu@smontagu.org, GĂ©rard Talbot <css21testsuite@gtalbot.org>
I'm not sure saving typing of that 5 keystrokes for non-vertical writing in
vertical flow is so much more important than for not saving 6 keystrokes
for Mongolians, but we can defer that discussion to Level 4 too, so I'm
good with what you said.

So the revised proposal is: defer both 'sideways' and 'sideways-left' to
Level 4.

Please let us know if any.

/koji

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:56 AM, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
wrote:

> On 01/11/2015 07:26 AM, Koji Ishii wrote:
>
>> I'd like to propose to:
>> 1. Defer 'sideways-left'[1] to Level 4, and
>> 2. Make 'sideways' as a value alias to 'sideways-right', not as a
>> switch between 'sideways-left' and 'sideways-right' by writing-mode.
>>
>> Currently, WebKit and Blink does not implement this value, and do #2
>> above. IE does not implement this property yet. I don't know the
>> status of Gecko, but I'd like to sort this out before implementations
>> pick different choices for the 'sideways' value.
>>
>
> I think it's important for solving the use case of non-vertical writing
> in vertical orientations. The purpose of 'sideways' was so that authors
> of English, Arabic, etc. could use vertical writing without having to
> worry about 'text-orientation'; they can just set
>   :root { text-orientation: sideways; }
> and then the document is always correct.
>
> I would be OK with deferring 'sideways' and 'sideways-left' to L4 if
> necessary, but I am not OK with allowing 'sideways' to be an alias
> to 'sideways-right'. This means that we have no value that handles
> correctly non-vertical writing systems.
>
> ~fantasai
>
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