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Re: [css-cascade] unwinding all: property

From: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 03:46:28 +0100
To: Brian Kardell <bkardell@gmail.com>
Cc: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Message-ID: <3lu7ea5r7rn4cp3ab922pktbupkel9tfvf@hive.bjoern.hoehrmann.de>
* Brian Kardell wrote:
>Essentially it boils down to this:  I would be willing to wager my last
>dollar that the vast majority of authors do not understand how the browser
>arrives at how an HTML page is rendered with no author stylesheets.
>Currently many friends and people that I talk to are dismayed or surprised
>by the behavior having expected it to do something more "default" like:
>
>all: user-agent;
>
>and reset back to -that- behavior.  If suddenly the contents of script or
>style tags is displayed, or blockquotes just look like regular inline text,
>that seems to be upside down on the priority of constituencies.  Currently
>it's up to them to recreate and define what would have been an initially
>sane group of styles and that seems just wrong.

That authors may want to "reset" properties without having to re-specify
that `table` elements should be rendered as tables has, as I recall it,
always been understood ever since we began discussing proposals like the
`all` property over a decade ago. It's somewhat surprising that current
proposals do not account for that. As far as styling HTML documents is
concerned, a "blank slate" state where everything is like a `<span>` is
not really useful outside of special case scenarios like test cases.
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