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Re: [css-ui][selectors] Deferring definitions of pseudo classes to selectors 4

From: Florian Rivoal <florian@rivoal.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:17:51 +0100
Cc: Tantek ??elik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>
Message-Id: <EBDE9AB9-970B-4D6A-8F6A-D8B6B5B0208B@rivoal.net>
To: www-style@w3.org

> On 13 Nov 2014, at 19:02, Florian Rivoal <florian@rivoal.net> wrote:
> 
> We discussed this at TPAC, and I believe we had consensus, but did not record a resolution.
> 
> All the pseudo classes defined in css3-ui are also defined in selectors 4. There are no contradictions between css-ui definitions and selectors definitions. Mostly they are the same, but some have a few more details and clarifications in the selectors specification. Selectors also defines additional pseudo classes not mentioned in css3-ui.
> 
> We could bring up to speed the definitions in css3-ui, but I don’t think it is helpful to have two specifications advancing in parallel and with similar maturities, both claiming to supersede 2.1 and selectors 3.
> 
> I propose that we remove the section in css3-ui about pseudo classes (http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-ui/#pseudo-classes), and let selectors 4 define them.


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> On 13 Nov 2014, at 19:45, Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Florian Rivoal <florian@rivoal.net> wrote:
>> css3-ui defines a few pseudo elements meant to style XFORMS in http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-ui/#pseudo-elements, all marked at risk. During TPAC, a task was assigned to Bert (http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Tracker/actions/656) to ask Steven Pemberton and try find if there are any implementations. Steven suggested XSLTForms as the most likely candidate, but it does not implement these pseudos. Bert found one implementation: X-Smile (http://www.xsmiles.org/), but this is unmaintained since 2008.
>> 
>> Tantek, do you know of other implementations?
> 
> I do not.
> 
> 
>> If not, even though they seem quite well defined to me, given the apparent general lack of implementation interest and the status of XFORMS on the web, I suggest dropping this section from CSS3-UI.
> 
> Agreed and that was my plan once putting them at risk.


Since we resolved on removing both of these (http://www.w3.org/mid/CADhPm3tfM7ewisaP+WGjjWa_TU35_JFQmdaaobsECytTEJR7hA@mail.gmail.com), here is a patch to do it.




 - Florian



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