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[css3-flexbox] Should intrinsic size definitions account for flex? (was Re: Should "align-self:stretch" have any effect on main-size?)

From: L. David Baron <dbaron@dbaron.org>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:12:33 -0700
To: www-style@w3.org
Cc: Daniel Holbert <dholbert@mozilla.com>
Message-ID: <20130821001233.GA23995@crum.dbaron.org>
On Monday 2013-08-19 23:28 -0700, Daniel Holbert wrote:
> >From my reading, the answer from the current flexbox ED is "no" -- the
> spec's algorithm *first* establishes the main size of flex items and of
> the flex container (in section 9.2 through 9.3), and it only takes
> "align-self:stretch" into account when we're midway through section 9.4.
>  But Chrome and Opera don't seem to match my expectations, and I like
> their behavior & think we might want to amend the spec to explicitly
> call for their behavior.
> Consider this testcase:
> http://people.mozilla.org/~dholbert/tests/flexbox/can-stretch-affect-main-size-1.html
> That testcase contains two examples, which only differ in their
> "align-items" value on the outermost (vertical) container.

I think this testcase also raises a second question, which is
whether the very simple definitions of intrinsic size in
http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-flexbox/#intrinsic-sizes are really
correct.  A definition that accounted for the values of 'flex'
(perhaps in similar ways to the ways table intrinsic width
computation accounts for percentage widths on cells/columns) might
have led to a more sensible preferred size for the inner flexbox
here, and thus avoided the problem entirely.


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