- From: Jon Ronnenberg <jon.ronnenberg@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:08:48 +0200
- To: Alan Stearns <stearns@adobe.com>
- Cc: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAPEZGVvZOwQiZbmrzpkJubWHa_bksgjm6k4EtGpJ-2hymxYiBA@mail.gmail.com>
Dear Alan and fantasai, I honestly don't understand your resentment against the proposed feature. As to being pragmatic, even if Flexbox was supported today, it will take 2-3 years before it's viable technology to be used on www, based on browser history[1] and what's in the pipe-line[2]. Basically we are waiting for IE10 to be obsolete and Saf6 (iOS6 also uses Saf6 which probably means iPhone3GS, iPod4th, iPad3[3] is out) and things gets even worse on Android. Adding 'white-space:ignore' not only fixes an important omission from the 'white-space'[4] property (as already noted in the spec), it is also a well defined and understood issue which can be remedied by a simple shim. Something that Flexbox can not. However, it doesn't make sense and is against the idea of standardization to proceed with such a shim, without a formal agreement or at least a sign of goodwill, in the W3C forum. >browser will support Flexbox long before a 'white-space:ignore' can be >specified, standardized and implemented. I simply can not believe that ignoring white space is such a huge feat that it would take years to implement, in contrast to the much bigger and wider concept of Flexbox (where 3 different implementations exist). I am exceedingly interested in knowing your reason for discarding this request. I am also keen to hear why, instead of having 1 more value, it's pref-able to invent an entire new property, 'white-space-collapse'[5], for the sake of omitting a white space? 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_web_browsers 2. http://caniuse.com/flexbox 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iOS_devices 4. http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-text/#white-space0 5. http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-text-4/#white-space-collapsing Cheers, Jon 2013/4/19 Alan Stearns <stearns@adobe.com> > On 4/19/13 3:44 AM, "Jon Ronnenberg" <jon.ronnenberg@gmail.com> wrote: > > >Yes, you're right about flexbox. Although flexbox is far less pragmatic. > > If you're considering pragmatic grounds, there's an additional argument > for Flexbox: > > >## Flexbox > > > >Pro: Does indeed address this design issue and is getting steadily > >increasing support. > > Pro: Given the increasing support for Flexbox, it's very likely a given > browser will support Flexbox long before a 'white-space:ignore' can be > specified, standardized and implemented. > > Thanks, > > Alan > >
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