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Re: The CSS Problem

From: Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu <kanghaol@oupeng.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:20:11 +0800
Message-ID: <50A2AB7B.4050205@oupeng.com>
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
CC: Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>, Liam R E Quin <liam@w3.org>, "Jens O. Meiert" <jens@meiert.com>, WWW Style <www-style@w3.org>
(12/11/14 3:39), Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
> (12/11/14 0:40), Sylvain Galineau wrote:
>> Actual adoption by implementors and usage by authors are the metrics
>> I believe to matter most. (And I'd love to hear from others about
>> the acquisition and sharing such data)
> Now that I only work on personal sites and can freely rely on Flexbox,
> though, I've forgotten almost everything I knew beyond the bare
> outlines, but the work I do is faster and more feature-ful.

Jens didn't provide concrete reasons why "growing too fast" might not be
a good things, but speaking of Flex, here are some of the possible concerns:

1. I saw a comment on Weibo saying that "yeah, Flex is nice, but it is
not performant". I have no idea how reliable that statement is, but
assuming it's true, meaning that the same layout would be more
performant if achieved with 'float' and 'clear', and assuming he was
playing with Webkit's implementation, it would be nice if Webkit
implementers can focus on optimizing Flex instead of moving on to, say,
Grid, given that Flex seems to be the one that all browser vendors are
on board already. This would might or might not impact the "usage by
authors" metric as mentioned by Sylvain.

2. I was told that IE 10 only implements those that are listed on [1].
That is, it doesn't support 'flex-flow' (but there's 'flex-wrap') and
'align-content'. Could it be that IE 10 people spend too much time on
other features such as Grid and Region? (Though I think the sensible
guess is that the good implemention is not released yet)

Having said that, I don't think the CSS Working Group is responsible for
managing progress of individual implementations nor do I think the group
has such power, but you can clarify that, maybe.

[1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/hh673531(v=vs.85).aspx

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