- From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:41:34 -0700
- To: www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote: > The element() function currently allows an out-of-document element to > be selected and (in some cases) rendered, through a mechanism that is > host-language dependent. There is an informative example of this > using the CSSElementMap API I proposed to be added to HTML for this > purpose. > > There's been a relatively large amount of discussion and disagreement > over multiple aspects of this: > > 1. Some people don't like having id selectors refer to out-of-document > elements, as it's inconsistent with how the same selector would work > in other contexts. > > 2. The behavior of this for SVG fragments is underdefined currently, > because CSS in out-of-document trees is underdefined. > > 3. The existence of the CSSElementMap in HTML is contested. Some > suggest that it should be part of CSSOM instead, or have a different > name, or have slightly different behavior (such as relying on the > element's own @id attribute, rather than using the key in the map as > an alternative id. > > 4. Some people think the current ability is too limited to really be > useful, and we should wait and combine it with the ability to > reference elements from external documents as well. This would allow > things like making a paint-server gallery in an SVG file and then > referencing it in your CSS; right now you'd have to insert the SVG > into every page, either as direct markup or with script. > > My proposal is to drop all references to this ability for now, and > resolve these issues either in Images 4 or another spec like CSSOM. > I'd remove all references to out-of-document elements from the spec. > This still leaves in useful abilities, like the ability to use a > non-rendered element; it would just require putting the element into > the document and giving it display:none. > > This also lets us avoid the handful of issues around this subject > recorded in <http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css3-images>. > > Thoughts? I've made this change. Now time to go edit the wiki and remove a few of the issues! ~TJ
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