- From: Chris Eppstein <chris@eppsteins.net>
- Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:49:35 -0800
- To: Simon Fraser <smfr@me.com>
- Cc: Paul Bakaus <pbakaus@zynga.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>, Lea Verou <leaverou@gmail.com>
- Message-ID: <CANyEp6Wh_oUZKJGxhG=8hicn20DoNUxksO_VgHqRqg_ft1+u-g@mail.gmail.com>
Less typing for authors is a pretty big win and one of the causes of the current snafu. It shouldn't be *harder* for authors to do the right thing. Preprocessors and other tools help. Specifically, I hope my project, Compass, has helped keep devs sane and adhering to best practices over the last couple years. But such tools shouldn't be considered anything more than a stop-gap solution to deal with the fact that incompatibilities will _always_ exist. If you missed it on twitter, I wrote a blog post on this subject: http://chriseppstein.github.com/blog/2012/02/08/standardizing-incompatibilities/ On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Simon Fraser <smfr@me.com> wrote: > Could you explain how this helps with any of the main issues with prefixes? > > I don't see any benefits other than less typing for authors, which can > be achieved in other ways already. > > Simon > > On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Paul Bakaus wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > > > There's been a lot of heat again regarding vendor prefixes, and this > email > > serves as a proposal to get rid of the problem - but not of vendor > > prefixes - once and for all. > > > > I am proposing the addition of something I am calling CSS property > > proxies, or alternatively, CSS setters. The basic idea is to have CSS > > track a property (i.e. "transform") and define how it should behave for > > that property. This is in some way a little similar to the mixin concept, > > but more restricted to the actual property. > > > > Actual Syntax could look similar like this, allowing a property to proxy > > to more than one properties: > > > > @proxy transform(a b c) { > > -webkit-transform: @all; > > } > > > > By default, you would use pseudo variables passed through (space > separated > > from the original), but there would be a special keyword (like the @all) > > above that simply forwards the whole thing. > > > > Or, if this looks too much like mixins, something like this might work as > > well: > > > > @proxy transform(a b c) -webkit-transform(a b c) > > > > This is obviously all not fully fledged out (not sure how to make it > > generic enough to be able to pass through any args), but a quick Twitter > > exchange round got a lot of people excited, so I want to open discussion > > here to understand if something similar has ever been proposed, and if > > there's potential. With very few lines of code, library authors could > > build CSS with this that gets rid of the vendor problem, and can be > > upgraded at any time - therefore, it doesn't destroy the purpose of > > prefixes. > > > > Thinking forward, the only way to implement this in a sane fashion is to > > implement this very feature *without* vendor prefixes, as notable > > exception to other upcoming CSS features (or it would destroy its > purposes > > itself, ha). This would likely need a push from all browser vendors. > > > > Feedback? > > > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > > > > > >
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