- From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
- Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 11:04:13 -0700
- To: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Summary:
- RESOLVED: for TR drafts that are not actively maintained, republish the
existing TR drafts with a note explaining that the module is
currently unmaintained, and add a pointer to the editor's draft
- RESOLVED: Tab to add warning to unmaintained editors drafts
- Also discussed TPAC registration, remaining issues for css3-images to LC,
and IDPF coordination
====== Full minutes below ======
Present:
César Acebal
David Baron
Bert Bos
Daniel Glazman
Arron Eicholz
Elika Etemad
Molly Holzschlag
Koji Ishii
John Jansen
Brad Kemper
Chris Lilley
Peter Linss
Anton Prowse
Florian Rivoal
Alan Stearns
Steve Zilles
<RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/10/05-css-irc
<glazou> Regrets from hardy, danielw, kimberlyblessing, dsinger, sylvaing, Tab, smfr
<johnjansen> glazou, Microsoft is about to have a firedrill and we will need to evacuate the building... it should take about
20 minutes.
<glazou> johnjansen: ROFL, ok
* ChrisL suspects a small telcon over before the fire drill ends
<Zakim> +arronei; got it
<johnjansen> there goes the alarm... back in a bit
<arronei> and there goes the fire alarm...
Scribe: dbaron
Administrative
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glazou: Extra items for today?
Bert: I sent an item about the IDPF -- the epub plans.
<glazou> http://www.w3.org/mid/CAAWBYDAbkFf6jtK_aQBwTgOsBmE5c=vs1fnQkk30ZBXwew_qjA@mail.gmail.com
Publishing css3-images as last call
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<Zakim> +SteveZ
Chris: last call is a good thing -- requires having no open issues.
Brad was arguing that his issue hadn't been resolved.
glazou: Brad said he hadn't yet had time to answer Tab's last message
on the thread but planned to do so.
glazou: agree to wait?
Chris: Should probably have a time limit -- ask Brad to respond within
2 weeks, or alternatively raise it as an LC comment.
ACTION Chris: email Brad (on public ML) asking Brad to respond within 2 weeks
<trackbot> Created ACTION-370
Not-maintained note on non-actively-maintained specs
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<glazou> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-css-wg/2011JulSep/0358.html
Chris: sounds like a good idea... though I'd have put css3-values in the
same category until it was recently revived
florian: unmaintained doesn't mean it won't be maintained again in the future
glazou: (1) agree w/ florian (2) we should reflect the warning also in the
list of documents we maintain on the roadmap
florian: Helps new people coming along -- avoid wasting their time.
glazou: Tab is volunteering to make the edits.
glazou: I suggest I email him about what we just said and let him do the edits.
glazou: ok for everyone?
Bert: several of these have been published. Should we put something on
the TR page? That's the more important publication than the CVS one.
glazou: doable?
Bert: we can certainly republish w/ new status section
glazou: let's do that
glazou: Once the edits are made (by Tab), I suggest we publish
dbaron: editor's draft may be substantially different from TR page draft
dbaron: somebody should probably take a few minutes to look at each one and
see if it makes more sense to push the editor's draft to the TR page
or republish what's now on the TR page with a warning
dbaron: css3-linebox
dbaron: something else mentioned
Steve: css3-linebox -- John wants to edit in near future
dbaron: I'd rather somebody spend 10 minutes thinking about the issue
glazou: On what basis would you make a decision?
Steve: One idea is to republish TR draft with note that it's no longer
maintain, but also link to editor's draft
glazou: That way the edits are easy to make and we have a link to the
editor's draft
dbaron: fine with me
glazou: steve's proposal accepted
RESOLVED: for TR drafts, republish the existing TR drafts with the note,
and add pointer to editor's draft
RESOLVED: Tab to add warning to unmaintained editors drafts
[discussion with brad about responding to issue]
TPAC
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glazou: reminder, register for TPAC if you plan to attend. There's a fee,
which gets a lot higher if you don't register in time. Also book
travel and hotel. There are also less expensive hotels nearby
(Avatar hotel across street).
glazou: I'll send link to Avatar after the call.
glazou: We also need to collect agenda items for the TPAC. Is there a
wiki page for that already?
glazou: I'm waiting for the final answer for Paris -- we exceed 24 for
the first meeting room I was planning.
<Bert> -> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2011/ TPAC registration form
<dbaron> https://www.w3.org/Style/Group/meetings.html
<dbaron> if we migrate to wiki, should only migrate down to point where
minutes became public
molly: I'll migrate that to wiki
molly: and set up wiki pagefor tpac meeting
<fantasai> http://wiki.csswg.org/planning/tpac-2011
<glazou> www.jdvhotels.com/hotels/avatar
IDPF
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Bert: working on epub -- we've been working on vertical text in text module
Bert: they recently decided to start new WG on adaptive dynamic layout
Bert: for multicol, grid positioning, and other things
Bert: It's clear we won't be able to match their schedule; they want it
done by July next year.
Bert: We can help them along ... things may need prefixes. And keep in
contact so we know what they want and they know what we can do.
Bert: How do we do the coordination?
Bert: Brady Duga (chair of new WG) is in CSS WG
Bert: Would be good if somebody participating in layout stuff from our
side were involved in their meetings.
glazou: You said that ??? is going to attend TPAC or find somebody else
more technical.
glazou: If we have a representative there at TPAC, shouldn't we discuss
this at TPAC?
ACTION: glazou to invite Bill McCoy to CSS Working group's meeting at TPAC
to discuss coordination with IDPF
<trackbot> Created ACTION-371
Steve: and invite as many IDPF participants as could attend
glazou: I'll do that
glazou: We have at least 2 implementors of epub in the WG (Adobe and me),
also Koji
glazou: ok, short meeting. talk to you next week.
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