- From: Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:36:29 -0000
- To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Cc: www-style@w3.org
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:24:44 -0800, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:13:34 -0800, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The CSS 2.1 specification uses some very confusing (if not erroneous) >>>> terminology in describing the fundamental concepts of the Box Model: >>>> >>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/REC-CSS2-20110607/box.html#box-dimensions >>> [snip] >>>> The uses of the words `perimeter', `edge', `width', and `box' are >>>> completely unreasonable unless the following statements are >>>> considered reasonable: >>>> >>>> * The `perimeter' of an area really means the `outer perimeter' >>>> of an area. >>>> >>>> The word `edge' is a suitable synonym for the word `perimeter'. >>> >>> Yes, this seems reasonable. The spec says exactly that. >> >> So, it would be reasonable if the spec were to define `orange' >> as a suitable synonym for `perimeter'?---just because that's >> what the spec says. >> >> Reasonable definitions are usually chosen so as to avoid clashes with >> existing usage, especially when the proposed synonyms already have >> some kind of relationship to each other in common language. > > Hyperbole helps no one. > > Using the word "edge" to refer to the entire perimeter of something is > a perfectly reasonable and common thing to do in English. Referring > to a specific line on a box as being an "edge" is *also* a perfectly > reasonable and common thing to do in English. > > Since both uses are perfectly appropriate English constructs, and > there's no ambiguity in the usage, I don't see a problem to be solved. As I wrote to Glenn Adams here:[0] Now, there's nothing wrong with saying "an edge can have edges", as Tab said (I'm perfectly capable of managing that kind of abstraction), but it's not a very wise choice for conveying these concepts. It is especially not wise when a second usage of the word `edge' is introduced first IMPLICITLY. References ---------- [0] Subject: Re: The Spec: On the `edge' of despair Message-ID: <06fb486157b143d284aa662f4aeb2ff9-mfwitten@gmail.com> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0256.html
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