- From: Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:02:51 +0000
- To: "www-style@w3.org list" <www-style@w3.org>, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Cc: Charles Belov <Charles.Belov@sfmta.com>
On 7 Feb 2011, at 21:04, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: >> But in the case of a public meeting, where we have a legally >> published >> agenda, and items are called by the chair by letter, it would be >> important to me that the rendered speech be: >> >> A. First item >> B. Second item >> C. Third item >> >> and I would definitely *not* want to leave this decision >> to the user agent. > > This is an important case for more than just Speech. In general, > sometimes the list marker is important content and shouldn't be > CSS-controlled. > > To solve this, I'm going to propose an 'inline' value for > list-style-type and a 'marker' value for display, which lets you write > the marker directly in the content, mark it as a marker, then display > it like a list item marker. In this case, Speech should indeed read > the actual content of the marker. > > This proposal will show up in the draft sometime this week as I finish > out my first draft. Hi Tab, I've tried to keep track of changes [1] in the CSS3-Lists editor's draft [2] since this CSS3-Speech issue was raised. How stable is the current CSS3-Lists draft specification now ? Any idea of how far it is likely to get up the W3C recommendation ladder, within the next few months ? From the perspective of CSS3-Speech, it is preferable to minimize the dependencies on other parts of CSS3, especially those in draft stage. I am not totally sure that CSS3-Speech needs new list- specific properties (read on). I have been studying the speech-synthesis aspects surrounding lists and tables more closely since Charles raised the issue. It is clear that the CSS3-Speech module cannot remain silent (pun intended) about these special content structures: regardless of whether CSS3-Speech needs new functionality to allow authors to explicitly control list and table aural rendering, we should at least describe what is out-of- scope, and what the basic level of support is (I will propose some specification language in the editor's draft soon). Thoughts welcome. Regards, Dan PS: how come the CSS3-Lists specification hosted at dev.w3c.org is not marked as an editor's draft ? (you know, with the red label on the left of the page, such as [3]) Is this an error with the Makefile, or the W3C HTML post-processor service ? [1] http://www.xanthir.com/feed/public-css-commits/?spec=css3-lists&format=html [2] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-lists/Overview.html [3] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-lists/Overview.src.html
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