- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:31:09 -0700
- To: Florian Rivoal <florianr@opera.com>
- Cc: www-style@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CACQ=j+dC-TpFwNKzCHKbabBq_mHmPAFB2mB8_tBEdj+ScPidtg@mail.gmail.com>
in general i agree with this, however I would object to any use of the term "obsolete", which, at least in my reading in terms of specifications, means it has been superseded; since it has not been superseded, that would be an incorrect characterization; that is, it is (or may) still be used, it is not necessarily out of date, and it has not been replaced by something new obsolete |ˌäbsəˈlēt|adjective1 no longer produced or used; out of date : the disposal of old and obsolete machinery | the phrase was obsolete after 1625. See note at old .verb [ trans. ]cause (a product or idea) to be or become obsolete by replacing it with something new : we're trying to stimulate the business by obsoleting last year's designs. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Florian Rivoal <florianr@opera.com> wrote: > On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:52:03 +0100, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> wrote: > > I'm not sure that declaring it obsolete is the correct path. In order to >> declare something obsolete, it is necessary to define what replaces it. >> None of the current CSS specs replace it (as a profile). It would be more >> accurate to describe it as "no longer being developed for the purpose of >> transition to REC". >> > > I meant an obsoletion notice like the one attached to this document: > > http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-**content/<http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-content/> > > We've done this recently to a bunch of unfinished specs that had been > inactive > for too long. > > The only thing it says is that we are not actively working on this, and > haven't > been working on it for so long that we don't want to promise anything about > the relevance or correctness of this content. > > > I know of a number of external specifications in the TV space that >> normatively refer to this CR, so their doing so should not be disturbed. >> > > Well, normatively referring to something that isn't REC is usually not a > good > idea, but of course, there isn't always an alternative, so I don't blame > however > did that. > > At the same time, since they are already out of the W3C way of doing > things, as > long as we don't take it off-line, or turn it on its head to mean > different things, > I am not sure why they would care that in what way the CSS WG flags its > documents. > > What I am primarily interested is informing people who discover this > document for > the first time that reading it, basing new specs on it, or using it as a > guide for > implementation is probably not a very good use of their time. > > - Florian > >
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