- From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
- Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:45:04 -0700
- To: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- CC: www-style@w3.org, 'WWW International' <www-international@w3.org>
On 09/27/2010 06:11 AM, Richard Ishida wrote: > My first instinct is to question whether there is an issue here. Is it a > problem that ruby text labelled 'before' will appear to the left of vertical > mongolian text? Yes. Because it's not just about Mongolian text, but about Chinese text in a Mongolian document (which is not that uncommon). Or other scripts in a Mongolian document. Those languages should be able to set their positions in a way that works for horizontal as well as both vertical modes. > Before and after refer to the position relative to the > block progression, in my mind. It's not about top of line coincidence. Exactly. That's exactly the problem. The ruby-position property should use values that are based on top-of-line coincidence, not block progression before-edge coincidence. > I think that above and below are confusing, since they suggest physical > locations that are not appropriate for vertical text. Yeah, I've switched to "over" and "under" which at least is consistent with text-decoration: underline overline. > (Note that the CSS Ruby module says " vertical-ideographic layout mode, the > ruby appears on the right side of the base" - mongolian isn't ideographic. > That could certainly be made clearer with a note.) The position of ruby, underlines, emphasis dots, and anything else should not be dependent on the UA doing script detection. It should be set with a style sheet rule. ~fantasai
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