- From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
- Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 07:26:18 -0700
- To: "Aharon (Vladimir) Lanin" <aharon@google.com>
- CC: public-i18n-bidi@w3.org, W3C style mailing list <www-style@w3.org>
On 09/25/2010 05:25 PM, Aharon (Vladimir) Lanin wrote: > The current definition > <http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-text-layout/#unicode-bidi> > of unicode-bidi:isolate states: > > "For the purposes of the Unicode bidirectional algorithm, the contents > of the element are considered to be inside a separate, independent > paragraph, and for the purpose of bidi resolution in its containing > paragraph (if any), the element itself is treated as if it were an > Object Replacement Character (U+FFFC). (If the element is broken across > multiple lines, then each box of the element is treated as an Object > Replacement Character.)" > > I think that it is worthwhile to stipulate that unicode-bidi:isolate has > no effect whatsoever on any element that either creates a separate UBA > paragraph, or serves as a UBA paragraph break in its containing UBA > paragraph. Such elements include: any element taken "out of flow" e.g. > with float or position:absolute, any element with display other than > "inline", <br bidibreak=hard>, <textarea>, <input type="text">. This Elements that are out-of-flow do not affect their surrounding contents. That is the definition of out-of-flow, and it needs no further clarification here. As for atomic inlines such as <textarea> and <input>, they are handled as U+FFFC under the non-textual entities clause (which will be further clarified in the next revision of CSS2.1) and the bidi independence of their contents are covered by the spec text quoted below. > stipulation is particularly important for the display:block and <br > bidibreak=hard> elements, for whom unicode-bidi:isolate's specification > that the element be treated in the containing paragraph as if it were > U+FFFC, i.e. bidi class ON, conflicts with the proposed specification > <https://docs0.google.com/a/google.com/document/edit?id=1zR06HjhVvt7ySAJeqq7zQZSzpLTRgV8AoQNo_vNznX4&pli=1&authkey=CIXomoYI#> > that these element be treated in the containing paragraph as if they > were bidi class B. The spec says # User agents that support bidirectional text must apply the Unicode # bidirectional algorithm to every sequence of inline boxes # uninterrupted by a forced (bidi class B) line break or block boundary. # This sequence forms the "paragraph" unit in the bidirectional algorithm. In what way is this not sufficient to address your concerns? ~fantasai
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