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Re: @font-face and slow downloading

From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 17:48:45 -0700
Message-Id: <D7F29ECB-C847-40BB-B356-8662AE3DAA34@apple.com>
To: www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
I think that the choice of whether to show (a) nothing (b) a substitute font, when the correct one is not (yet) available is very much a user and UA question.  I don't think timeouts or author indications have much place, or will be much help.  How do they know whether I am an impatient SOB who wants something readable soon, or a precision SOB who only wants things to look right?

However, I am struggling with the question of whether a temporary substitute font is different from a fallback font.  Maybe it isn't -- after all, if the UA picks the temporary subset 'for the time being' and actual download takes longer than the user keeps the page open, it's not material that it wasn't a permanent fallback.

Maybe we should insist on a fallback list including at least one 'normal' font, for downloadable faces, and say that the UA 'may' show a fallback before the downloaded font is available, but if it does, must re-render using the downloaded font when it becomes available?

David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:49:19 UTC

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