Re: Shadows vs. layout

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:08 PM, fantasai<fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net> wrote:
> David Hyatt wrote:
>>
>> I also don't think it's as simple as just throwing a sentence into the
>> shadows section.  Two other examples (glyphs and border images) have been
>> brought up as well.  WebKit also has its own custom text stroking CSS
>> properties, which are somewhat similar to the glyph problem.
>>
>> We're talking about really changing the definition of what overflow is
>> here and breaking it up into two categories.  If this is really how people
>> want to proceed, I think we'd need better defined language in the actual
>> overflow section of the CSS spec to explain how the two types of overflow
>> work.
>>
>> Especially in the vertical case, though, the idea of not being able to
>> scroll to shadows or border images or glyphs that spill out really doesn't
>> feel right to me.
>
> I would expect the author to provide adequate margins or padding in these
> cases.
>
> I'm not sure about border-image outside the border area, whether that should
> trigger scrolling or not. I'm leaning towards leaving the standard behavior.
> But shadows definitely should not trigger scrolling.

I can probably be convinced otherwise, but I'm still thinking that
using appropriate (suppressed) borders to make the block's geometry
work as expected is a better idea than making border-images cause
overflow.

~TJ