- From: Patrick Garies <pgaries@fastmail.us>
- Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:46:26 -0500
- To: Bert Bos <bert@w3.org>
- CC: www-style@w3.org
Bert Bos wrote: > I don't know what I prefer yet, just trying out some syntax... I think it makes the most sense to tie the image fallback color to the image and make the image required to specify that color since having the color without the image it applies to is pointless: background-image: <bg-image> [ / <color> ]? [, <bg-image> [ / <color> ]? ]* ; If you want to allow fallback only for the back-most image, then: background-image: <bg-image> [, <bg-image>* [, <bg-image> / <color>]? ; I don't really see a good reason for the restriction though (which necessarily exists when you take the <color> / [ <color> ]? approach due to <final-bg-layer>). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Regarding the |background-size| syntax, using either slashes or stand-alone parentheses for |background-size| doesn't seem particularly intuitive. IMO, it would be best to accept verbosity and go with something like... background-size: <bg-size> | ( <bg-size> ) [, <bg-size | size( <bg-size> ) ]; ...where the functional |size| notation is required in the |background| shorthand. Not only would that be more intuitive, but it would allow an author to put the |background-size| information anywhere within <bg-layer> (or <final-bg-layer>). If you want to reduce complexity, you could require the functional notation with |background-size| too. Otherwise, if you /really/ must go with the least amount of verbosity, I think that the parentheses notation makes more sense than the slash notation that's currently in the Editor's Draft; it's more functional and, I'd say, more elegant. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Regarding the current fallback color model, you might consider changing it entirely to something more powerful. Example: background-fallback: <color> [ any | all | far ]? [ bg-color | bg-all | font-color ]? [ normal | safe ]?; <color>: fallback color (|transparent| is default) any (default): use fallback if any one background image fails all: use fallback only if all background images fail far: use fallback only if the farthest/bottom-most background image fails bg-color (default): if property applies, override the background color bg-all: if property applies, override all backgrounds and replace with the color font-color: if property applies, override the font color (leave the backgrounds intact) normal (default): apply fallback only after a background image failure safe: apply fallback until all background images have loaded I don't know whether that's worth integrating into <background> though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ — Patrick Garies
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