- From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:42:51 -0600
- To: "L. David Baron" <dbaron@dbaron.org>
- Cc: "Daniel Glazman" <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:04 PM, L. David Baron <dbaron@dbaron.org> wrote: > On Wednesday 2008-11-26 17:50 -0600, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: >> (Also, authors who don't use CSS at all won't suffer either way from >> this decision, because you can't text-align without CSS. Authors who >> know a little bit of CSS will find that the problem is trivial to fix >> and well within their skill level and capability when they ask around >> on forums or read blog posts or just poke around a bit by themselves.) > > Common examples without CSS are likely to be things like: > > <center> > <ul> > <li>Hi!</li> > </ul> > </center> Damn, I forgot about <center> centering text as well. > <img align="left"> > <ul> > <li>Hi!</li> > </ul> Did you leave something out of this example? I don't understand how it applies. Even in the case of <center>, though, I'll still argue that, from a design standpoint, having the markers move to the left edge isn't horrifying. As well, as I said before, the visual changes resulting from the trivial fix (moving the marker inside) aren't significant when the text is centered. In the worse case - an author with absolutely *no* CSS knowledge - since they obviously don't care about semantics anyway (they're using <center>, after all) they can just paste a bullet character directly into the text. (This is relatively common anyway - the "designers" before me at my company consistently implemented <ul>s with a two-column table, e.g. <table><tr><td>•</td><td>...</td></tr>...</table>. I still have nightmares.) ~TJ
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