- From: L. David Baron <dbaron@dbaron.org>
- Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:37:44 -0700
- To: www-style@w3.org
- Message-ID: <20060711223744.GA8093@ridley.dbaron.org>
CSS 2.1 currently has a special case in the definition of 'empty-cells' at http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-CSS21-20060411/tables.html#propdef-empty-cells : # Furthermore, if all the cells in a row have a value of 'hide' and have # no visible content, then the row has zero height and there is vertical # border-spacing on only one side of the row. which I mentioned in the message I just sent [1]. I propose that this exception be removed because: * I haven't found any implementations, although some implementations may appear to implement part of it due to bugs in their handling of empty-cells described in [1]. I tested the following implementations using the testcases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2006Jul/att-0007/empty-cells-2-standards.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2006Jul/att-0007/empty-cells-2-quirks.html + Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180 'empty-cells' affects layout only in the vertical dimension and only in standards mode, but not just in the special case described above, which is a bug as explained in [1]. The removal of duplicate 'border-spacing' is also not implemented as required by the special case. + Firefox 1.5.0.4 (Linux) [Mozilla 1.8.0.4] 'empty-cells' affects layout in all cases (not just the special case above), which is a bug as explained in [1]. The removal of duplicate 'border-spacing' is also not implemented as required by the special case, nor is the height caused by the 'padding' of the cells (from the cellpadding attribute) collapsed to zero. + Opera 9.00 (Linux) 'empty-cells' does not appear to affect layout in any cases + Safari 1.3.2 (v. 312.6) 'empty-cells' does not appear to affect layout in any cases + Konqueror 3.5.3-0.4fc5 'empty-cells' does not appear to affect layout in any cases * It's a special case that requires a good bit of extra work to implement (checking if all the cells in a row are empty and treating the row differently). * I don't see what the use case for wanting this behavior is. * This behavior can lead to unexpected effects, such as a large border or padding value on a cell being ignored or not depending on the contents of other cells in a row. -David [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2006Jul/0050 -- L. David Baron <URL: http://dbaron.org/ > Technical Lead, Layout & CSS, Mozilla Corporation
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