- From: Kevin Lawver <kplawver@aol.com>
- Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:24:43 -0500 (EST)
- To: "Susan Lesch" <lesch@w3.org>
- cc: www-style@w3.org
Susan, You're using a strange font for your default. This doesn't explain designers' and authors' need to place more content above the fold (which means they use really tiny fonts), but I think changing your font to the "real" default might help. Firefox uses: Serif @ 16pt Times Helvetica Courier @ 13pt All at 96dpi. You could also set the minimum font size, but the default is not to. Safari uses: Times 16pt Courier 13pt It also allows you to set a minimum font size. Opera uses: Times 16pt Courier 13pt I don't think browser makers are planning on changing the defaul font sizes for their browsers anytime soon, but even if they do, it's only a preference away. This is not a standards problem, but a design problem. Designers, and authors, are too dismissive of those with failing eyesight. We've got a lot of people on the standards bandwagon; it's time to get them on the accessibility bandwagon as well. -- Kevin Lawver AOL | WSP Pub Dev Web Standards Advisory Group: http://wsag.office.aol.com "I never watch Sesame Street anymore. I know most of that stuff." -- George Carlin Susan Lesch wrote on 2/28/05, 6:58 PM: > Hello, > > Do some Web designers prefer fonts too small to read in Firefox with my > preference, Baskerville 14 (Mac OS 10.3.8)? If I needed to call Opera, > Adobe, Microsoft or Netscape, I'd have to be very close to the screen to > read a phone number. Here are a few examples. > > http://www.opera.com/company/about/ > style sheet > http://www.opera.com/css/screen.css > body is 73% > > http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/main.html > style sheet > http://www.adobe.com/ssi/css/mainnav.css > some fonts xx-small > > http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/default.mspx > (sorry I gave up) > http://www.microsoft.com/ > style sheet > http://www.microsoft.com/h/en-us/r/hp.css > (various, 70% and up) > > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > style sheet > http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/browsers/i/download.css > "is faster....", languages are 11px > > http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/ > style sheet > http://www.mozilla.org/css/cavendish/content.css > body is small > > http://www.apple.com/contact/ > style sheet > http://www.apple.com/main/css/global.css > body is 12px > > http://www.omnigroup.com/company/ > style sheet > http://www.omnigroup.com/resources/global.css > body is 10pt > http://www.omnigroup.com/resources/2004.css > body is 12pt > > http://www.w3.org/Consortium/ > style sheets > http://www.w3.org/Guide/pubrules-style.css > http://www.w3.org/Consortium/about-style.css > (no size) > > The good news is they all have style sheets. :-) > > In about 1999, Mac browser vendors changed from 12px to 16px [1,2]. I > assume the problem, if there was one, has been solved. Or do you think > CSS usage is raising shipping and or user preference sizes again? > > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/1998Dec/0030.html > [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/1998Dec/0052.html > > Thank you.
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