- From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
- Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:14:25 +0200
- To: Tex Texin <tex@i18nguy.com>
- Cc: www style <www-style@w3.org>, W3c I18n Group <w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org>
On Tuesday, Oct 21, 2003, at 08:21 Europe/Helsinki, Tex Texin wrote: > I am afraid I don't understand why most everyone is so gloomy on the > prospect > of a font being sufficient to enable users of minority scripts. I'm gloomy about font embedding/automatic downloading, because: * Considering the precedent with non-CJK Asian scripts, I think font embedding is likely to be abused in a way that actually harms Web accessibility of some scripts. (Prolonging the Latin gibberish approach.) * Internet Explorer has a large installed base and it has working support for font embedding at least for the Windows-1252 repertoire. That is, there's already a large population of users with a user agent that supports font downloading. Still, as far as I know, font embedding isn't used much by Western designers. It's not like designers shy away from features the just because they are IE-specific. Perhaps there is something unattractive about font embedding that outweighs the attractiveness of visual control. Something that runs deeper than the currently available method being IE-specific. * Font foundries don't want their fonts distributed for free for everyone. Compared to some other jurisdictions which don't have any official copyright relaxation for fonts, the U.S. Copyright Office stance that a rendering produced with a font is not subject to copyright is actually rather lax. However, because of this, the font foundries tend to take the stance that hinted fonts constitute software, which in turn has exceptionally strong corporate protection. Even if font embedding was technically feasible, what's the point in putting effort into implementing something that almost no one dares use because of legal issues? * Designers tend to pick fonts they believe "everyone" has. This includes mainly Times New Roman, Arial, Verdana and sometimes Georgia. Western designers in general aren't even using the full font repertoire of Windows and Mac OS, because they seem to think consistency across "all" environments is more important than picking something less trite that might look different for different readers. Since designers wouldn't be able to make sure embedded fonts work *everywhere*, why would the designers choose to embed different fonts if they don't dare to use fonts that a significant number of people (but not the supposed "everyone") already has installed? What's the point in putting effort into font downloading until designers embrace the idea that it is OK to have different fontifications in different environments? (I think it is unrealistic to expect that CSS WG-endorsed font referencing would guarantee the same fontification everywhere and alleviate the designer concern for sameness.) * Fonts are rather large (in bytes) relative to the size of usual Web pages. The time it takes to download the font may be perceived to be too long compared to downloading the text. I don't believe font embedding would actually in practice solve anything for people who want to read Chinese in a university in England. The CJK font sizes are just too large compared to the size of the main content of usual web pages. Also, does anyone want a flash of unfontified content (compare with the flash of unstyled content)? Deferring the display of the page until the font has arrived would be a bad solution. However, a sudden font change after the reader has started reading the page would be bad, too. -- Henri Sivonen hsivonen@iki.fi http://www.iki.fi/hsivonen/
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