- From: Todd Fahrner <fahrner@pobox.com>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:51:02 -0800
- To: Karlsson Kent - keka <keka@im.se>, www-style@w3.org
At 1:23 AM +0100 1/25/00, Karlsson Kent - keka wrote: > > (*) Windows/other OS'es 12pt onscreen for a Windows PC is > > 16pt for other > > OS'es, 12px is 12px everywhere. This goes for printouts too. > >I haven't got the foggiest idea what "px" means in a printout. Haven't you read the recs? The CSS-1 & -2 recs have it as 1/90", though I understand this has changed in committee to 1/96", or 0.75pt if you prefer. What hasn't changed is that CSS implementors should attempt to render a pixel in a manner that is likely to subtend a visual angle of approximately 0.0227 degrees. >For pica points, Didôt points, mm, cm, even inch, one can pick up >a suitable ruler and measure the size. Assuming one knows >the actual (rather than just nominal) zoom. And for printouts >as well as desktop screens, the actual and nominal zoom >should be as close as practically possible. > >I know that Windows has one builtin (but not properly declared >to the user) zoom, and MacOS has another builtin zoom for >desktop screens. Now it appears that at least future browsers >will use the same buitin zoom at least for those two platforms. >What I suggested (among other things) was that the default >desktop screen zoom would be 1) (about) 130%, specified by >CSS, 2) the zoom be properly 'declared' as such to the person >in front of the (desktop) screen, and 3) that the person in front >of the screen should (if practically possible, i.e. when in >control of other aspects of the "surfing") be able to change >this zoom for his/her reading convenience. > >So, 12pt at a (total) zoom of 250% should be (pick out your >Pica ruler, or convert to mm) 30pt on the (desktop) screen >surface. (If not, complain to your favourite browser provider.) > >Now, what is 12px at a zoom of 250%? That would be 22.5pt, unless the implementor has reason to believe that this is unlikely to produce a visual angle of approximately 5.1 degrees. >And someone with bad eye-sight, will probably want to *reliably* >and gracefully enlarge *everything*: text, images, vector graphics... >Not just perhaps enlarge some of the text (if em, %, or !important >is used). I certainly think a zoom feature is a very good idea. I will be upset if the upcoming Mac version of Opera does not include such.
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