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Re: Issue 1: Font-weight and headings

From: Chris Lilley <Chris.Lilley@sophia.inria.fr>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:08:30 +0200 (MET)
Message-Id: <9707281608.ZM15540@grommit.inria.fr>
To: "E. Stephen Mack" <estephen@emf.net>, www-style@w3.org
On Jul 26,  6:50pm, E. Stephen Mack wrote:

> <H1>The headline <STRONG>is</STRONG> important!</H1>

> Using CSS1, we can declare that level-one heading elements
> should not be given a bold weight:
> H1 { font-weight: normal; }
> Since font weight is an inherited property [2], the STRONG element
> in the example heading above sbould inherit its parent's
> lack of bolding.

... Provided that there is not a rule in the browser style sheet
which gives STRONG a specific style (there is likely to be).

> Thus, the example HTML should be displayed with no bolding
> throughout the entire heading, including the word "is".

Not necessarily. If you want to force all STRONG to be normal, use

STRONG { font-weight: normal; }

If you juyst want STRONG inside H1 to be normal,

H1 STRONG { font-weight: normal; }

> While Navigator 4.01 renders the heading without any bolding
> for the word "is", IE 4.0 platform preview 2 does render the
> word "is" in bold.  [3]

That is fine. Both have done what you asked, and both have correctly
cascaded your stylesheet with the browser default style sheet.

> Now, I can almost understand why Navigator does not let
> the font-weight property inherit

If it did not let the propery inherit, it would not conform to the
CSS1 spec. However, it does let it inherit.

> down into the embedded
> STRONG element, since the default property of the STRONG
> element is font-weight: bold.

What you are calling the default propoerty is what I have been calling
the browser default stylesheet - ie a formal expression, in CSS, of how
the browser lays out a document that doesn't have it's own style sheet
(note for pedants: in the absence of a reader style sheet).
> I've read through the section in the CSS spec on
> inheritance [7], and I see how rule 3 clearly says that
> User Agent default values are given less priority than author
> or reader style sheet values.

That isn't the whole story, though.

> So, it seems to me Navigator is wrong.


> Is there a general
> pattern of priorities that Navigator isn't following correctly
> of which this is just one example, or this just an isolated
> quirk?

There is a more general pattern ofd priorities that both browsers
are following correctly (but with different data):


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