- From: Chris Wilson (PSD) <cwilso@microsoft.com>
- Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:16:24 -0800
- To: Rainer Klute <klute@nads.de>
- Cc: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Rainer Klute wrote: >Chris Wilson wrote: >>...I vote to keep the $CANVAS notation from the last draft. > >Each HTML document has a BODY, explicitly or implicitly. It is just >that authors can leave out the BODY start and end tags (thanks to >SGML's OMITTAG feature), but that doesn't mean that there is no >BODY. Perhaps you just can't see it, but your SGML parser can. And >browsers do use an SGML parser, don't they? :-) Heh. Well, a number of them that I've worked on are based on the CERN libWWW library's "SGML parser", which at those drop points at least did not have support for OMITTAG. I didn't mean to imply those documents don't have a body - just not a <BODY>. This has to be dealt with anyway for <HTML>, according to the CSS spec, but I'd like to keep from having to require OMITTAG support for CSS. Every other element selector (other than <HTML>) is on structural elements that _occur_in_the_text_ (that is, concrete as opposed to implied by OMITTAG). And, obviously, (although I know you were joking :^), most browsers DON'T use a "real" SGML parser. It is one of my goals to never suggest anything that breaks SGML - but keep in mind we're trying to get all those browser vendors without real SGML parsers to support CSS. $CANVAS just seemed like a really clean place for an HTML author or viewer to be able to say, "I want blue text on a beige background for everything." Perhaps that's primarily because the language in the CSS spec is a little labored and unclear; in particular, it specifically states "In order to set a 'default' style property, one should use 'HTML' as a selector," then goes on to say, "To address the canvas... one should set properties on the element which has 'width' and 'height' set to 'from-canvas'. In HTML the 'BODY' element is given this role." This seems like a completely unnecessary duplication. If $CANVAS is to be removed, I would suggest leaving in the language about using the HTML element to address the entire document, and removing the language in "Addressing the canvas" section referring to the <BODY> (or changing it to repeat the <HTML> statement). -Chris
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