- From: Adam Souzis <adam-l@souzis.com>
- Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:07:15 -0800
- To: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Cc: www-rdf-interest@w3.org
Yes of course that is not true but irrelevant. I am talking about RDF's, not OWL's, semantics -- in RDF the meaning of URIs are intensional -- you need a higher level intepretation theory -- like OWL -- to determine equivalence. Thus there is no way in RDF model theory to assert something like <a> owl:differentFrom <d> or <a> owl:sameAs <d> But bNodes, as existential variables, are extensional -- if they weren't the graph equivalency rule wouldn't make sense, nor could you do simple entailment. You could say, who cares, I'm only interested in a (particular) OWL interpretation -- well, I address whether that approach is desirable in my original email. Yes, bNodes are a real pain to reason about, but I'm not sure that implies RDF tool developers should avoid trying to understand them. -- adam Sandro Hawke wrote: >>Consider the address bnode example in the RDF Primer >>(http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-rdf-primer-20040210/#structuredproperties). >>There may be times when you want to reference that address externally >>(e.g. from another model) but the common sense approach to enable that >>by just replacing the bNode with a URI reference has a couple of problems: >>* it changes the meaning of the model: bNodes serve as existential >>variables -- if you replace two distinct bNodes x and y with 2 different >>URIs you are adding information to the model: because there is nothing >>in the model that says x and y might not be equal but the two URIs that >>replace are indeed not equal (since RDF uses intensional semantics for >>URIs). >> >> > >Not true. > >I think you're saying > ><a> <b> <c>. ><d> <e> <f>. > >entails > ><a> owl:differentFrom <d>. > >... but I really don't think that's the case. Can you find some >supporting text? > >(My recommendation: bNodes are a real pain to reason about, so avoid >them unless doing so is an even bigger pain.) > > -- sandro > >
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