- From: Vladimir Rykov <rykov-ont@narod.ru>
- Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 16:38:16 +0300
- To: "Richard H. McCullough" <rhm@cdepot.net>
- Cc: "RDF-Interest" <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <PMEKLEDHHNBCANDPBMKGIEHDCAAA.rykov-ont@narod.ru>
Outer properties in my case were Informative prose/Imaginative prose - then Newspaper articles - reportage, review, editorial (and other divisions and subdivisions of these two kinds of prose). One example - my computer told me that newspaper reportage according to its inner merits is in fiction cluster. I looked at this text - it was reportage about Kennedy inauguration ... In this book published in 70s or 80s the author treats as outer properties the descriptions of the place were the pieces were found. He assumes that some products (pots, jewelry) could be moved (bought, robbered) from one culture (i.e. place) to another. He compares these two classifications with remarkable results. He says that only such a kind of comparison makes classification really reasonable. -- Best regards, Vladimir P bI K O B B. B. MOCKBA Vladimir Rykov, PhD in Computational Linguistics, MOSCOW http://rykov.narod.ru/ Engl. http://www.blkbox.com/~gigawatt/rykov.html Tel +7-903-749-19-99 -----Original Message----- From: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org [mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Richard H. McCullough Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:57 PM To: Vladimir Rykov Cc: m.spork@qut.edu.au; RDF-Interest Subject: Re: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology Your English is perfectly understandable. Your example of an inner property of text (number of pronouns) is clear. Could you give me some examples of outer properties, i.e., what are "genres" in this case? I assume that "typology" is the standard cross-classification of (inner properties) x (outer properties). ============ Dick McCullough knowledge := man do identify od existent done knowledge haspart list of proposition ----- Original Message ----- From: Vladimir Rykov To: Richard H. McCullough ; m.spork@qut.edu.au ; www-rdf-interest@w3.org Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:51 AM Subject: RE: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology Mr McCullough - you can find this book by its name. I forgotten the author. Not earlier then 80s. To the matter. I explain how I used his idea. I had a corpus of texts classified into genres etc. It was outer classification. I took these texts and counted with computer their innner properties (the number of pronouns, etc) and I got a cluster classification tree. Then I compared it with outer classification. It was very informative. The French guy said that only this final classification is typology. The Author wrote (he is arche...ist) - "we dig remnants ..." Actually they did the same. They try to classify what they digged in various places as if they do not know their origin. Then they compare their classification with outer classification - from which places the pieces of pots, jewelry were found. It was really remarkable and brought them lots of info. I did understand him - but I am not sure you'll understand my awful English. Vladimir Rykov PhD in Computational Linguistics rykov.narod.ru -----Original Message----- From: Richard H. McCullough [mailto:rhm@cdepot.net] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:10 PM To: Vladimir Rykov; m.spork@qut.edu.au; www-rdf-interest@w3.org Subject: Re: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology I would have to hear some more details to be sure, but it sounds like the book is talking about intensive (properties of entities) and extensive (entities) classifications. These two aspects of entities are really inseparable, so if you try to separate them you are apt to get nonsensical results. If this "typology" is something else, I'd like to hear more about it. ============ Dick McCullough knowledge := man do identify od existent done knowledge haspart list of proposition ----- Original Message ----- From: Vladimir Rykov To: m.spork@qut.edu.au ; Richard H. McCullough ; www-rdf-interest@w3.org Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:57 PM Subject: RE: RDF vocabulary definitions - typology If I may intrude into wise discussion. I read Russian translation of French book - Theoretical Archeology. The guy said there - there are two kinds of classifications - based on inner and outer features of objects. Then we compare/match these classifications. The result is a kind of super-classification called typology. Vladimir Rykov rykov.narod.ru
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